Posted on Jun 6, 2017
The credo of modern conservatism: ‘They’re laughing at us’ - The Boston Globe
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Define "collaboration". Doing whatever the Left wants? How about "compromise". Abandon your principles to do whatever the Left wants? Sorry. I'm tired of playing that game and I believe most conservatives are as well.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Correct, but since their visions face in opposite directions they can't be for the good of the American people.
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SSgt Gary Andrews
If the Reagan presidency was the failure you just outlined, Jack, then why is he held up as the model for all GOP presidents to follow? I'm confused.....was Reagan a great POTUS or not?
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CPT Jack Durish
SSgt Gary Andrews - I love how people will reinterpret anything you say or write to fit their own narrative
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CWO3 (Join to see)
Division is a growth sector. Plenty of folks in media, government - domestic and abroad - making lots of physical and political capital off keeping the US in opposition. We are being played in the most obvious way. Stick to your principles but don't buy into the extremist hype. Our adversaries love it because it weakens us as a Nation. It's hard to fight off the enemy when we're obsessed with opposing each other. Divide and conquer.
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"He claimed, falsely, that the treaty would hamstring the US economy and cost jobs." I stopped reading at that line, since it is actually a false statement. The EPA's assault on coal fired electrical plants have already cost jobs and the economy. Granted some of the coal industry's downfall is attributed to cheap natural gas, but it is also attributed to the policies of the EPA.
I read recently that the cost of electricity is around $1 in the US, and around $10 in Germany - mostly caused by Germany's unrelenting drive to green energy. That is a significant cost to their economy.
I read recently that the cost of electricity is around $1 in the US, and around $10 in Germany - mostly caused by Germany's unrelenting drive to green energy. That is a significant cost to their economy.
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SSG Michael Hartsfield
MAJ (Join to see) - Touche. You get a pat on the back and a cookie. Happy day for you. You've earned it.
SGT Kevin Berman In spite of that and thank you for that clarity, what does that have to do with the current state of our politics where we would rather engage in schadenfreude than lead, and that is coming from both sides of the aisle?
SGT Kevin Berman In spite of that and thank you for that clarity, what does that have to do with the current state of our politics where we would rather engage in schadenfreude than lead, and that is coming from both sides of the aisle?
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SFC Thomas Butler
The EPA did not kill the coal industry. The advancement of fracking techniques in natural gas and oil drilling just made those two fuels much cheaper than coal to procure. When electrical generation companies figured out that they could produce the same amount of electricity for half the price, they started converting to natural gas. The market killed coal, not the EPA.
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SGT Kevin Berman
SFC Thomas Butler - The drop in NG prices certainly has attributed to the decline in using coal. But you can't dismiss the EPA's assault on coal either - one way they have done is is the reclassify minor maintenance to coal plants as 'structural' changes, thus forcing major and costly, upgrades. At that point, was cheaper to shut them down.
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SSG Hartsfield - I learned in Political Science 101 as a freshman in 1969 that ALL ELECTIONS are decided at the local level. In 2016 the DNC FAILED MISERABLY to promote a local, county and state level message that resonated with the American voter. They instead tried to delegitimatize Trump as a man and a candidate by conducting a national smear campaign. That decision was predicated upon the DNC's arrogant and smug belief that the common people of flyover country were too stupid to think for themselves. That gambit failed miserably and as a result Trump won 2623 counties while Clinton won 489. Thus, giving Trump a 306 to 232 Electoral College advantage. Conservatives also revolted when Clinton arrogantly referred to them as racist, misogynistic and homophobic. They will continue to do so because as the authors so eloquently point out; modern American politics has morphed into an intensely polarized political and cultural chasm. That is a reality that will not change any time soon. Conservatives don’t just view liberals as being wrong, they view them as being illegitimate and the corollary is true regarding how Liberals view Conservatives. The authors are also correct in their assessment that no matter what he does or says, Trump will maintain the backing of his core supporters because they view the repudiation of the smug, well-educated, sanctimonious and hypocritical Liberal Elite as a mission that will never end.
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LTC Orlando Illi
SSG Michael Hartsfield - Regarding your observation that good leadership is showing "...what right looks like..." . In 2008, Republicans, exercising leadership that represented their constituents, allowed the DNC to demonstrate to their constituency their version of "..what right looks like...". Unfortunately, since 2010, DNC leadership failed to convince American Voters of the viability of their version of "...what right looks like..."and as such lost 1,030 seats in state legislatures, governor's mansions and Congress. So once again I fail to see why the Republicans should so anything. If the DNC message is so compelling; then they will win in 2018 and 2020. On the other hand if Perez, Waters, Pelosi et.al. cannot articulate a message that resonates with middle America they will remain in the minority - it is that simple.
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SSG Michael Hartsfield
MAJ (Join to see) - What makes it fake? Did you see how close that election was? It never was that close in Montana's history but of course you would consider it "fake" because it doesn't line up with your beliefs. BLUF, if Trump's ideas are so great then why is everyone and the Mama distancing themselves from him, why isn't anyone willing to work for his administration and why can't he go a day without him doing something stupid like disclosing troop locations?
BLUF, if you believe that the GOP is the answer then why are they failing to get any done politically and blaming everyone for their failings but themselves? But hey, we will indeed see, won't we?
BLUF, if you believe that the GOP is the answer then why are they failing to get any done politically and blaming everyone for their failings but themselves? But hey, we will indeed see, won't we?
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SPC Daniel Joslin
SSG Michael Hartsfield - I'm not sure the GOP is all about leadership; however, if they are they can only be leaders if someone is willing to follow them. The dems have made it abundantly clear the they want nothing to do with anything put forward by the GOP so we will continue to watch both parties in a stalemate with no accomplishments by either side. Someone (party) has to be the bigger person and allow compromise or show a willingness to work with the other side or they're just pissing in the wind
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