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SGT Steve McFarland
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There WILL be times when even a President you like will do something you think is not right, and it doesn't make you any less "patriotic" to stand-against bad-decisions or actions.
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Spot on!

If I could upvote you more, I would.

I think you noted a concept that is hard to grasp for many. It seems that some folks may lack the ability to objectively evaluate their leaders, for fear that any appearance of disagreement equals disloyalty to their tribe. Some might argue that vocal (yet professional) disagreement is a stronger sign of loyalty than simple blind and ignorant support.

There are many leaders who I have high respect for, but I disagree with at times. However, they allow me to voice my concerns, as any professional leader should (time and mission dependent). I am not disloyal to them or the mission, because my disagreement is in the same spirit of desire for things to be done as best as possible, but with consideration of different angles they may not have considered.

People have turned "patriotism" into an excuse to not be objective. In my opinion, that is the wrong path for them to follow, as it seeks to demonize any person (including fellow group members) who deviates even slightly in opinion. Patriotism should not become a word that is associated with willful ignorance, but one associated with loyal dissent and service.
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CPO Nate S.
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Roosevelt like Lincoln and other presidents of note realizes that any person holding or to hold the office in the future would be responsible for making sure the "ideal of the nation" is the tip of spear and not the people. Why, because the person may falter, but the idea, the dream of the idea of real freedom is the tip of the spear and must always remain sharp to pierce the vale of want, of ignorance and blind reckless bumbling stupidity.

As flawed man affirmed (https://famguardian.org/Subjects/Politics/ThomasJefferson/jeff0300.htm):

"The purpose of government is to enable the people of a nation to live in safety and happiness. Government exists for the interests of the governed, not for the governors. As Benjamin Franklin wrote, "In free governments the rulers are the servants and the people their superiors and sovereigns." The ultimate powers in a society, therefore, rest in the people themselves, and they should exercise those powers, either directly or through representatives, in every way they are competent and that is practicable."

I believe Roosevelt was well schooled in this regard. What our nation often forgets in the heat of the rhetoric of the day is that the responsibility of the Office of the POTUS is to keep the tip of spear sharp and failure to keep it sharp fails ALL the American people.
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MCPO Roger Collins
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Me too.

“Today, that kind of strong language from our nation's top executive would send many liberals into shock.
Judging from his comments, Roosevelt would be a strong proponent of challenging sanctuary cities and supporting modern-day legislation to crack down on any jurisdictions who refuse to work with federal immigration officials. He would have certainly been allied with congressmen like Rep. Lou Barletta, who wants to see penalties against those cities and counties who refuse to follow the law and work with immigration officials.
He would have also been a likely supporter of Barletta's other reasonable actions, such as showing proof of citizenship before getting a driver's license and penalizing employers for hiring illegal aliens.”
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