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TSgt David L.
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Spring issues. Still can be problematic today.
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There hasn't been a issue with springs in U.S. military 30 round magazines for the M16/M4 since the mid-90's.
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SN Greg Wright
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Pretty sure the SEALs use MP-5s?
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SFC (Join to see) - Meh I'd hoped your condescension was a function of my low rank, which is why I tagged someone more senior, hoping you'd take him more seriously. Sadly, you're simply not teachable, convinced that you're the only one who can know anything. The simple, factual truth is that I know more about SEAL tactics, operations, and weapons than you ever will. I simply don't feel the need to use that knowledge to be a condescending asshole. And since you continue to try to change the narrative to suit your position, this whole conversation is pointless.
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SN Greg Wright - For a guy who seems to have a problem with people making assumptions, you sure do make a lot of assumptions. This has nothing to do with rank or your rating or whatever the Navy calls an MOS. This has to do with what you really know. For example, a supply sergeant can be assigned to an Army infantry unit for years. He can even go out an do occasional patrols with the Infantrymen, but it is highly doubtful he has any real understanding of what is going on on that patrol. Same thing can be said for SOF support personnel. There is a reason why they are usually left with the vehicles or at the last covered and concealed position...and it is because they are not trained, nor do they really understand what is going on (back to the lack of specific training outside their job). So again, just because I sat next to a priest once, doesn't mean that I know anything about being a catholic.
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SFC (Join to see) - I made no claim to secret squirrel understanding of the inner workings of how they operate, nor would I - YOU attributed that to me, erroneously. All I did was look askance - you seem to have missed the question mark in my original statement - at something that was outside of my understanding of the reality I knew when I was in. That's it. I made no other claim. I never said they ONLY used MP5's. I can tell you flat out I never saw them with M-16's at all. Not once. Fact. Doesn't mean they didn't use them (though I would need evidence to believe they were using them back then), doesn't mean they're not using them now. It would be pure hubris to think I know anything at all about how things are done now. I was simply surprised by the article and expressed it. Everything that followed was in your head.
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SN Greg Wright - SEALs, along with Army Special Forces, carried M16A1 and M16A2 rifles up to the late 80's after the old CAR-15s started wearing out and before the first generation of M4 Carbines (or M16A2 Colt Carbines) were fielded. There is a pretty famous picture of a SEAL named Jim Kauber using an M16A1 in 1987 or 1988 during Operation EARNEST WILL. The M16A2 was common for the SEALs, especially for the grenadiers, up until the early 1990s because of reliability issues with attaching a full sized M203 to the M4 (before the days of the SOPMOD program). No matter what time period you are talking about though post-Vietnam, some form of AR-15 style rifle was the primary weapon system (M16A1, M16A2, M16A2 Carbine, M4, M4A1, or MK18). The MP5 was never a primary weapon for the SEALs, it was a special purpose weapon used for CQB and ship boarding until the MK18 CQBR was developed. The misconception that SEALs primarily carried MP5s in the 1980's and 1990's is something that is literally attributed to Hollywood.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
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PO1 Tony Holland A Seal Can Never Have Enough Ammo. (I'm So Glad I Never Went SPECOPS, I Always Thought that was Funny, You're a CT, You Can't Be a Seal but You Can Be Spec Ops, "What's the Difference?" Oh the Seals take You With them but leave You Behind in a Makeshift HQ while they go "Forward" and Take Care of Business. In Beirut they Left the O-Brancher in a Sewer Main System they set up as HQ. Wouldn't that Be Special)
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