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SGT Leif Lynch You need to check out UMUC. They offer a virtual lab for hands on training in Cyber Security (Bachelors and Masters Program).
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SGT Leif Lynch
SGT Leif Lynch
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I'll check them out. Typically schools don't like you to see what they offer until after you enroll. Things like that, I'd want to poke around and see how in depth the lab is.
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SGT Leif Lynch
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I called them and was told this lab was only available in a physical classroom but gave me an email address to inquire further. Still waiting on a response.
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CPT Company Commander (Hhc, Cyber Protection Brigade)
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Schools have to get away from traditional classes. The program should be designed as ongoing and enduring; sort of certification like mixed in with college. The traditional setup is part of the problem.
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SGT Leif Lynch
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The issue lies more with how universities teach IT and it flows over to cyber security. It's kind of like taking security plus. Schools teach theory, not practice. As a veteran who would love to dive in deeper to being a cyber warrior, I've exhausted my search of finding a college that will give me the hands on experience to even make it worth using my GI-bill. I'd much rather be able to sit through a 2 week bootcamp for certified ethical hacker than I would sit through 4 years of classes, half of which aren't even related to my major. Alas, my GI bill won't go towards this so I'll keep with the sys admin jobs.
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CPT Company Commander (Hhc, Cyber Protection Brigade)
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You won't. You need to study for CISSP, CISM, CEH, and etc. Sadly, 90 percent I know is from just reading all sorts of random books and articles, 9% certs, and 1% college. Boot Camps are waste of time. Self studying is the way to go (forces you to truly learn, all my certs have been self studied; did CISSP Shon Harris videos during a boot camp (basically ignoring the bootcamp)).
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CPT (Join to see) I'm waiting for the updated version of the CISSP Shon Harris. Everything you said is true and what good are you as a Cyber Defender to the Army or any organization if you truly don't take the time to master your craft.
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SGT Leif Lynch
SGT Leif Lynch
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CPT (Join to see) - Not everyone learns the same way. I typically do better with a boot camp to highlight the important areas. I also don't really have the environment that supports self study. As far as studying for certain certs, CISSP, being one, I could sit down and probably pass the exam within two weeks mediocre self study, but CISSP isn't what it used to be. Most certs aren't. In the same way universities tend to care more about profits, so do the groups that create these certs. The only reason my Sec+ is up to date is due to my position within the DoD. As we both know Sec+ is a dumbed down version of CISSP, same concept, more domains of security. Most CISSP certified professionals I've come across while active duty and after, couldn't secure a paper bag, never mind a network. I'm not taking shots at you or anyone else who pursues this cert just stating what I and many others have noticed about companies. The topic was about universities not doing their part to train future cyber warriors.
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CPT Company Commander (Hhc, Cyber Protection Brigade)
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I agree. Part of the problem with universities I believe with this is that students have to truly passionate about it. It's like how you can learn how to fix a car or be the type of person that can rebuild an entire car with unique parts and through elaborate research.
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