Posted on May 11, 2016
What the Nazis said to Gen. Eisenhower upon surrendering 71 years ago this month
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My uncle my dad's sister's husband was there I'd mentioned that on here sevl times I'd just figured I'd mention it here also, he was with the 3118th signal svc battalion or group that ran the comm and Telex system for Gen Eisenhower and got on his endorsement a Pres unit citation. When my uncle finished his Bach at Columbia Univ on the GI Bill while gen Eisenhower was Pres there before being elected, my uncle ever apparently hismunit comedian startled gen Eisenhower evidently by reminding the genl that he'd seen my uncle at shaef HQ before d day called southwick house in the UK. An aide feeding the genl diplomas to hand out on the steps of the Columbia Univ library to my uncle as well as a whole host of others incl many other GI Bill grads was totally taken aback, the genl looked at the side, who shrugged his shoulders in stunned confused disbelief as the other grads had all merely stood at attention as the genl handed them their diplomas some actually saluted my uncle recalled to me later on. The genl then turned back to my uncle squinted at him through his glasses for a minute, and evidently recognized my uncle as having been in the commo trailer next the the genl's trailer, which I was personally floored by, lol. My uncle was also at the little red schoolhouse at Rheims or Reims Germany when the Germans surrendered he actually saw them with all the allied dignitaries, read the account of the German surrender in the first not the second book by Capt kay summersby the UK born us army WAC who was the genl's driver as shown in the Ike film wit Tom selleck which also had a fantastic actor cast as Churchill. My uncle saw all of them Lt Gen Walter bedell Smith, as well as Montgomery, Marshall fadm King and the other combined chiefs of staff or CCS. That was in the first book she wrote, not the scandalous second one she wrote about supposedly her and genl Eisenhower later on where Pres truman supposedly burned all the proof of the scandal and genl Marshall supposedly rebuked genl Eisenhower. In her first book which has some interesting anecdotes, with no scandal mentioned or even hinted at , shed apparently been in the room where jodl and the others were brought after the surrender with the now famous speech mentioned in the site listed here. She said that genl Eisenhower stood staring at the Germans coldly and asked with an icy West point formality whether they understood the surrender terms, they all said "ja" whereupon the genl said they'd then be told later how to carry out the terms in later instructions. That was when he held up the surrender pens in the famous photo after jodl and the other glum faced despicable germans as she phrased them were ushered out hurriedly, and the genl said let's have a photo she may have been in one or more that moment I can't quite recall, I just figured you might all like to hear that whole account, lol, enjoy, love to hear any thoughts and or observations many thanks .
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Capt Lance Gallardo
Awesome Witness to History thank you for sharing that Capt. Goodman. My other grandfather, Seaman Jess Lagos (the one that survived WWII, vs my mother's father who was KIA US Army Infantry and is still buried in the US Cemetery In Manila the Philippines, after getting killed repulsing a dawn Jap Banzai Attack on March 14th, 1945) after surviving the Pacific War on three navy warships, a Tin Can Destroyer, a Light Cruiser, and ending the War in the Battle for Okinawa on the USS Guam, Heavy cruiser, and the numerous Kamikaze Attacks the fleet suffered during the Okinawa Campaign, he saw with his own eyes the Atomic Explosion of either the Hiroshima or the Nagasaki explosion while steaming off Japan in August of 1945, he never figured out which one, but until he died in 1999, that man was grateful until the day he died for the awful decision by President Truman to use the atomic bombs against Japan to hasten their surrender.
So when Obama goes to Hiroshima to pay his respects, I hope he stops off in Manila the Philippines and pays his respects to the thousands of US Soldiers and other service-members who were killed fighting the Jap War Machine in McArthur's return to the Philippines, thousands of whom are still interred in the US Cemetery along with my mother's father, or visits the Filipino Memorials to their hundreds of thousands of civilians whom the Japs killed, or he could pay his respects to the men who were killed in the Bataan Death March, by the Japs barbarity.
Actually it was not too difficult a decision for Truman to nuke the Japs given their fanaticism and unwillingness to surrender and the FACT that the US Public in August of 1945 really was "War Weary" after having suffered 400,000 plus Americans KIA in the European and Pacific Wars and no one wanted this war to go into 1946 AND an estimated one million US and allied casualties for the forced invasion of the Japanese Mainland Islands.
Japan was the ISIS of its day, a fanatical, suicidal, "fight to the death" for their "God Emperor" who's civilians would rather jump off of cliffs holding their babies, than surrender to US Marines in the Battle for Okinawa. They were preparing their suicidal civilian (women and children too), population to fight to the death armed with nothing but a sharpened bamboo stick. "Just hurt or kill one American before you die." THAT was ISIS before their was an ISIS, back in August of 1945.
That is what we were staring in the face before Truman dropped his two atomic Bombs on the Japs. They had no way of knowing how many more of these new terror weapons Truman had, but it was clear by then to all but the most insane Japs , that Truman was willing to drop these horror weapons on every Jap city, before he would authorize the one million US casualty invasion of the Jap homeland Islands, and that continued resistance would mean everyone of their major cities would end up looking like Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
That is how WWII ended with the surrender of the Japanese and the end of the Jap War Machine. Today, just like their are many people who try to deny the Holocaust and to minimize Germany's awful guilt and its millions of crimes against Humanity and the Genocidal Murder that has never before been committed on an Industrial scale the way the Germans and the Nazis perfected Murder, the same type of weak sauce so called "historians" are trying to deceive Americans into believing that the use of the two Atomic Bombs was "unnecessary" and the Japs were trying to surrender before we nuked them. BULLSHIT! Even after the Emperor went on the radio and the Japanese people heard his voice broadcast for the first time asking them to stand down and accept the unacceptable surrender to the allies, a small group of fanatical Japanese Military Officers attempted to storm the Imperial palace and kidnap or force the emperor to rescind his order to surrender. Those were the kind of fanatic ISIS types we had been fighting against since Pearl Harbor.
I was amused when a heard some Japanese Surviving Kamikaze pilots (not all of them got their death wish before the war ended) protest the comparisons that were made in early 2004/2005 or so when the Iraqi Sunni suicidal car/truck and vest wearing Jihadis started blowing themselves up regularly as a tactic to murder US troops or their despised Shia countrymen. These old and unrepentant War Japs were offended that we compared the Jihadis to the Kamikazes. In their mind they were much more honorable than these new kamikazes, such as the Sunni Jihadis and the ISIS that followed them???? WTF???
So when Obama goes to Hiroshima to pay his respects, I hope he stops off in Manila the Philippines and pays his respects to the thousands of US Soldiers and other service-members who were killed fighting the Jap War Machine in McArthur's return to the Philippines, thousands of whom are still interred in the US Cemetery along with my mother's father, or visits the Filipino Memorials to their hundreds of thousands of civilians whom the Japs killed, or he could pay his respects to the men who were killed in the Bataan Death March, by the Japs barbarity.
Actually it was not too difficult a decision for Truman to nuke the Japs given their fanaticism and unwillingness to surrender and the FACT that the US Public in August of 1945 really was "War Weary" after having suffered 400,000 plus Americans KIA in the European and Pacific Wars and no one wanted this war to go into 1946 AND an estimated one million US and allied casualties for the forced invasion of the Japanese Mainland Islands.
Japan was the ISIS of its day, a fanatical, suicidal, "fight to the death" for their "God Emperor" who's civilians would rather jump off of cliffs holding their babies, than surrender to US Marines in the Battle for Okinawa. They were preparing their suicidal civilian (women and children too), population to fight to the death armed with nothing but a sharpened bamboo stick. "Just hurt or kill one American before you die." THAT was ISIS before their was an ISIS, back in August of 1945.
That is what we were staring in the face before Truman dropped his two atomic Bombs on the Japs. They had no way of knowing how many more of these new terror weapons Truman had, but it was clear by then to all but the most insane Japs , that Truman was willing to drop these horror weapons on every Jap city, before he would authorize the one million US casualty invasion of the Jap homeland Islands, and that continued resistance would mean everyone of their major cities would end up looking like Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
That is how WWII ended with the surrender of the Japanese and the end of the Jap War Machine. Today, just like their are many people who try to deny the Holocaust and to minimize Germany's awful guilt and its millions of crimes against Humanity and the Genocidal Murder that has never before been committed on an Industrial scale the way the Germans and the Nazis perfected Murder, the same type of weak sauce so called "historians" are trying to deceive Americans into believing that the use of the two Atomic Bombs was "unnecessary" and the Japs were trying to surrender before we nuked them. BULLSHIT! Even after the Emperor went on the radio and the Japanese people heard his voice broadcast for the first time asking them to stand down and accept the unacceptable surrender to the allies, a small group of fanatical Japanese Military Officers attempted to storm the Imperial palace and kidnap or force the emperor to rescind his order to surrender. Those were the kind of fanatic ISIS types we had been fighting against since Pearl Harbor.
I was amused when a heard some Japanese Surviving Kamikaze pilots (not all of them got their death wish before the war ended) protest the comparisons that were made in early 2004/2005 or so when the Iraqi Sunni suicidal car/truck and vest wearing Jihadis started blowing themselves up regularly as a tactic to murder US troops or their despised Shia countrymen. These old and unrepentant War Japs were offended that we compared the Jihadis to the Kamikazes. In their mind they were much more honorable than these new kamikazes, such as the Sunni Jihadis and the ISIS that followed them???? WTF???
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Capt Daniel Goodman
I'm obv very familiar with the effort to create a revisionist viewmpf what happened with Hiroshima and Nagasaki of course . I'm also very familiar with the stories of the Japanese holdouts who refused to surrender inmsome cases for decades after ww2 ended. I know about the yasakuni shrinemwhere the class a war criminals in Japan are buried, the whole comfort women story of Korean women abused in ww2, the rape of Nanking in China, the whole unit 731 story mentioned in the film about pu to the last Chinese Manchukuo puppet emperor, and about stories of Japanese cannibalism during ww2, with one of those supposed cannibals, I'd read, I think in Singapore, having also possibly, according to something I'd read online awhile back though I can't find it for awhile now, having been an advisor to the north Vietnamese during the Vietnam war, which, quite candidly, I couldn't tell whether to believe or not, supposedly, he knew how to fight Western armies , though I don't know or recall if helped the Viet minh against the French likewise at down bien phu when the French lost there in the famous massacre in the late 50s losing French Indochina. I know the story of the Japanese officers who tried to circumvent hirohito surrendering, and how the recording of his voice has been hidden, I'd read, to protect it, for later broadcast, I think, or something like that. The unrepentant Japanese fascists were typified by "The Bird" the one who tortured Capt Louis zamperini in the Unbroken film, there's also the film The Railway Man with Nicole Kidman a true story if you haven't seen it about a survivor of the river kwai Railway torture camps for British and Australian POWs. Readmgive us this day bynsidney Stewart, and the book return from the river kwai I can't recall the authors now, one the principal!author, his first name was clay, I think. I'd be eager for your thoughts hope was of interest , many thanks .
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Capt Daniel Goodman
Sorry for misspellings the film was the last emperor about isohiro pu yi of China many thanks .
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That's funny that after Germany Surrendered, over a month later My Grandfather and Great Uncle were captured by Soviet forces in Bulgaria and one of my other Great Uncles was killed. The first two were sent to a POW camp for a couple years.
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