Posted on Jul 5, 2023
What the U.S. Military Still Hasn’t Learned From Iraq
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LTC Eric Udouj This article hits on several points of what went wrong and what we need to do better. When the people who are deciding whether or not to send the military somewhere have never served and sit in an Ivory tower think tank, they lose some focus. It becomes numbers. What Iraq showed us, according to this article, we need to take people and culture into account and if we start something, there needs to be a long term plan and not just a knee jerk response
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LTC Eric Udouj
how focused are we are China now --- and on learning the Taiwan military structure and the culture of both places? We see it coming - and yet - it will be a knee jerk reaction and we will show we have yet to learn the lesson. We remain fixed on the Russians - and we wont be fighting them... not anytime soon.
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Maj Kim Patterson
LTC Eric Udouj i personally have been watching China for over 4 years. I’m no longer in a position to make the call. And I can’t see what’s on the ground. We’ll have to rely on those who are.
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LTC Eric Udouj
Maj Kim Patterson - And who are those on the ground relying on always has been a question? Unless those lessons learned are pointed out -- folks up above them do not take notice of them..until its too late. :)
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Behind paywall, so I can't read in full.
But from what you have posted, I say POPPYCOCK.
The US military did its job and did it SUPERBLY.
Then the idiots and Washington wanted the military to be a State Department - and we failed miserably.
Hearts and minds is not a military mission.
Nation building is not a military mission.
BUILDING infrastructure is not a military mission (but destroying it is!).
Governance is not a military mission.
But the military had built a deserved reputation of getting it done. No matter what you throw at us, we find a way. We have been able to adapt, improvise, and overcome anything and everything. It doesn't matter if we had tje training, capacity, resources, or know-how. We get it done anyway. State, on the other hand, was a bit shaker- and had far less manpower.
What went wrong in Iraq and Afghanistan both is that the idiot politicians were idiots. And the idiot diplomats were scarcely better.
But from what you have posted, I say POPPYCOCK.
The US military did its job and did it SUPERBLY.
Then the idiots and Washington wanted the military to be a State Department - and we failed miserably.
Hearts and minds is not a military mission.
Nation building is not a military mission.
BUILDING infrastructure is not a military mission (but destroying it is!).
Governance is not a military mission.
But the military had built a deserved reputation of getting it done. No matter what you throw at us, we find a way. We have been able to adapt, improvise, and overcome anything and everything. It doesn't matter if we had tje training, capacity, resources, or know-how. We get it done anyway. State, on the other hand, was a bit shaker- and had far less manpower.
What went wrong in Iraq and Afghanistan both is that the idiot politicians were idiots. And the idiot diplomats were scarcely better.
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