Posted on Aug 1, 2020
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LTC Vindman retires, was he right or wrong? What about the second and third order effects?

Aside from the usually partisan (and superficial) comments regarding LTC (R) Vindman, is there a lesson to be learned here? We had a sitting US senator holding up promotion for 1000 senior officers to allow for his promotion. Whistleblowing. Polarizing politics and the politicalization of the military seems to be here for the duration. While the retired could easily just take pot shots from Ft. Living Room, here's my question. How can currently serving members truly remain apolitical? In a world where one callus post can end your career, use some judgment if you elect to weigh in. Was he right? Would you have done the same? Was he dead wrong?
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What is the question? Was he right to whistelblow or right to retire? At his level, his position has a large amount of politicization already. I would think that, as a Major, you're already experiencing that. I'm experiencing it for sure. One bad CO and, if you don't play along, he or she can ruin your career. I've seen RDMLs try it. If you think a LTC isn't an inherently political position, you're in for a rude awakening I fear.

From my perspective, it sure seemed like he tried to stay apolitical but you can't. Any time you speak out against a "leader" like President Trump, you're going to be punished. The SecDef should have stood up for service members. I'm concerned that you thought it was a Senator holding up 1000 promotions and ignoring that the President was holding up a single promotion out of spite. I would have hoped that other LTCs would have stood up and said, "No...he was selected just like I was. I'll stand up with him. Where is the brotherhood in saying you should sacrifice one person's career who was trying to fulfill his oath to the Constitution and was targeted for retribution by the Commander in Chief?
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SPC Albert Blosser
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do you get all your "facts" from breitbart and fox? You probably subscribe to "Der Stormer" as well. The Alt Right is not your friend.
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CPL Kenneth Servello Jr
CPL Kenneth Servello Jr
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He came after President Trump with known lies..that's not on President Trump.. vindman made himself a target when he drew decided to play politician.. and sided with the wrong side.
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CPL Kenneth Servello Jr
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SPC Albert Blosser sounds like all your facts come from cnn and pbs
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SPC Mark Marquette
SPC Mark Marquette
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"I am Spartacus! No! I am Spartacus!"...
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SA Carrington Bibuld
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He was summoned by congress. He followed his oath to the American people. His integrity is intact. I question those who would have had him testify othen than he did.
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Thanks for sharing your opinion
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Cpl Roman Makuch
Cpl Roman Makuch
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He had no integrity. If he had integrity, he wouldn't have shared the information with his buddy, who was no longer privy to that classified information. He wasn't a whistleblower. A whistleblower would have followed proper channels, not shared classified info with a buddy.
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CPL Kenneth Servello Jr
CPL Kenneth Servello Jr
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He was summoned because he said he had intel. That he heard something first hand..and thought seeking whistle-blower protection would cover his lies..
He was wrong.
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CPL Kenneth Servello Jr
CPL Kenneth Servello Jr
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He never had integrity..those who worked with him will tell you that.
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He didn’t use his chain of command and was trying to punch well above his pay grade. He was foolish to wear his political beliefs on his sleeve and be used as a pawn.
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SGT Cy Sturgis
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The strength of the American armed forces is their apolitical stance. In America, civilians controlled the use of force and that is the way it should be. However the culture of service, honor and brotherhood is (I hope) the culture of the military. LTC Vindman broke faith with all of that when he went to the press because He didn’t like the policy of the current occupant of the White House. That’s a betrayal of military honor and one more step toward changing the US military into a third world political mob.
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PO2 Allen Pegg
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Vindman never had a true case. He was only out to get the President. There was NOTHING wrong with the phone call but IDIOT Vindman wanted it to appear so.
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SPC Mark Marquette
SPC Mark Marquette
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SQWAWK!! Polly want a cracker!! "Perfect phone call! Perfect phone call! GRAWK!"
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MSgt J D McKee
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Treason. That is really all I have to say.
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SPC Albert Blosser
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duty, honor, country, no where does the constitution say that the president is above the law or the ucmj.
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SSG Dave Johnston
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CPL Kenneth Servello Jr
CPL Kenneth Servello Jr
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No one but democrats made that claim.
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SFC Benjamin Varlese
SFC Benjamin Varlese
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Do you know what a MLAT is?
Do you understand what is within the scope of presidential authority when it comes to foreign policy?
Do you know what "unauthorized disclosure" means?
If the answer is "no" to any of the above, you should probably sit this one out.
I'll just leave this here so you can mull over whether Trump was within his presidential authority to request legal assistance to uncover corruption and criminal activity.
https://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/tdoc16/CDOC-106tdoc16.pdf
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Man y’all are some glutens for punishment. These comments remind me of all those sugar cookie I endured at Knox
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SGT J M Porters
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I remember those! And E town!!
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1SG Robert Hunt
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Something got to be wrong with our military members when you follow wrong over what’s right. That tells me you are no different from LT General Flynn. Your integrity is in question. Don’t let this so call president lead you right off a cliff.
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SP5 Alain Delon
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Obama relieved mcchrystal because he disagreed with The presidents policies.
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CPL Kenneth Servello Jr
CPL Kenneth Servello Jr
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Flynn was screwed over...badly.
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SFC Benjamin Varlese
SFC Benjamin Varlese
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I'll just leave this here so you can mull over whether Trump was within his presidential authority to request legal assistance to uncover corruption and criminal activity.
https://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/tdoc16/CDOC-106tdoc16.pdf
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Sgt Den OBrien
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It's a year after this original post and truth and info are coming out after Gen. flynn recently filed his civil suit against the US government and those involved with his biased persecution. What the government, the FBI in particular, did to Flynn was criminal. There will be much more coming out as this legal action is pursued, but right now it's just the tip of the iceberg on the illegal activities taken by the DC swamp rats against Trump and anyone on his side:https://www.westernjournal.com/read-entire-explosive-50-million-gen-flynn-lawsuit-us-government/
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MAJ Hugh Blanchard
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LTC Vindman was assigned to a post in support of the National Security Council. Very dicey business, given that national security policy is a very politically controversial battlefield.
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LTC Stephen F.
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Very=well stated my friend MAJ Hugh Blanchard
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SPC Mark Marquette
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The very nature of his appointment is political. He wasn't a damned door-post sentry!
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