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SGT English/Language Arts Teacher
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It's really easy - follow a company or business' policies or don't work for them. Don't go there. Not that difficult to do.

And what's to stop someone from going from work at home to working in person? Nothing.
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Maj John Bell
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But it isn't a company or business's policy. It is a FEDERAL GOVERNMENT policy and a government over reach. This policy isn't about public health. This is about comply or we will destroy your livelihood. The liberal/progressive elite are prepping the sheep.

Here's a question that needs to be answered... At what point is the government justified in restricting our liberties or demanding compliance? 1 in 100? 1 in 1,000? 1 in 1,000,000? Just want to know so we can start restricting more freedoms, making more mandates that you must follow... even in the privacy of your own home.

It appears to me that the bar is dropping. It also appears that the government is positioning itself to invade our homes and our private lives for this and ANY future "public health crisis." At one time or another, the CDC and major metropolitan areas have declared guns, racism, poverty, soft drinks, obesity, alcohol use, tobacco use, income inequality, pornography, graffiti, jukeboxes and pinball machines "public health crises."

Once government seizes control and imposes its authority, it almost NEVER relinquishes that authority, even when the "crisis" has passed.

My wife works for an environmental lab. There is a statistician who has worked from home for years, hasn't been to any company facilities or off-sites for over a decade. His off-site work is an ADA accommodation. That accommodation is probably not going to meet the "legal" standard that would allow him to decline vaccination. Requiring him to get vaccinated has NOTHING to do with making the workplace safer and nothing to do with keeping federal employees safer. Once again, comply or we will destroy your livelihood.

"And what's to stop someone from going from work at home to working in person?"
How about a boss who says "Do not come to the workplace?"

What's to stop an unvaccinated person from standing next to you in a grocery store? A gas station? etc? Your question is just silly, contrarian, and unworthy of thoughtful response.
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Does it really matter though? Work-from-home can quickly change to work-on-site. The government gets to set the terms of employment for its employees.
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Maj John Bell
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SFC Casey O'Mally - My wife works for a company that employs an off-site bio-statistician. Because of an ADA accommodation he has worked from home for over a decade. He hasn't left his home in that same time. He isn't going to accept vaccination. So he "must be destroyed." Dunh Dunh Dunnnnnnh.

I just want to know where the threshold is set such that the government can invade our homes.
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SFC Casey O'Mally government contractors are going to have to interact with the public. Quit looking for reasons not to get the vaccine. Get the damn vaccine.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
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SGT (Join to see) There are a shit ton of government contracts that do not interact with the public.

I *have* gotten the vaccine. This isn't about vaccines, it is about control and government overreach.
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Maj John Bell
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SGT (Join to see) - I've been vaccinated so make your BS assumptions about someone else. But I made a choice. But I'm intellectually honest and can see the argument about mandates.

Tell me a specific measurable and objective standard, applicable to all or most public health crises, where the government may intervene with more than guidance, PLEASE. Until then you and I are at the mercy of the political elite who will do what they think we will tolerate. I do not trust government. I do not trust people who want to govern. And I WILL question government at EVERY turn when they try to restrict my freedom, or for that matter anyone else's freedom (even when I don't agree with that anyone.)

Within the last decade, government at some level has declared every one of the following a "public health crisis" and put in place mandate to regulate our conduct in public, and in some place EVEN in our residences: guns, racism, poverty, soft drinks, obesity, alcohol use, tobacco use, income inequality, pornography, graffiti, jukeboxes, video games, sound levels no higher than a typical lawnmower, and pinball machines. In some cases businesses, business assets, residences and personal property have been seized. I'm not as concerned about this "public health crisis" and the government overreach. I'm concerned about the next "public health crisis" and the next government overreach.

And how did you come by such a vast encyclopedic knowledge of all contractors, let alone even a sizeable minority? Yes probably as part of their daily lives most federal contractors will come into contact with the public. But if daily lives are part of the metric, then call out the police, declare martial law; and hunt down the unvaccinated to give them their vaccinations. Because that is what it will take. And we will have, for many people, passed the "light and transient causes" mentioned by Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence.

P.S. I can personally name a half dozen federal contractors who do not interact with the public as part of their duties. They work in remote monitoring stations (commute to and from daily) and haven't been visited on the job by their employers in months, let alone the public.
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