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"Special Forces' hand-to-hand combat training: Which is the most lethal?"
Originally published on military1.com:
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A question posted on Quora asked, "In CQC (close quarters combat), who receives the most lethal hand to hand combat training: SEALs, Delta, Green Beret, Rangers, Marine Force Recon or Air Force PJs?" Below is just one of the responses. Check it out and add yours in the comments below.
By Trace Evans, Black Belt, Marine Corps Martial Arts Program
This is very person dependent so for the sake of the answer I will give a perfect example. The Marine Corps takes it in my book, call me biased. The Marine Corps Martial Arts Program is utilized to train every Marine in hand to hand, and is used in Spec Ops training alongside whatever crazy training they do on their own.
It was developed in 2001 and took techniques from multiple styles of martial arts. The techniques are designed to incapacitate, maim, or kill an opponent. MCMAP is a belt system starting with Tan.
There are 5 belts in all: Tan, Gray, Green, Brown, and Black
A Marine with a Green belt or above can earn a tan tab indicating instructor status. A black belt can earn a red tab indicating instructor trainer status, or second degree black. Black has up to 5 red tabs, with the fifth indicating sixth degree black.
Many Marines dislike MCMAP with most saying it doesn't teach much. This is wrong, in every way. While the beginner belts are basic techniques, the upper belts are brutal. Most advanced techniques are designed to kill, and anyone with a brown belt or above has gone full contact with another Marine (that's part of the syllabus).
Any Marine wielding a Red tab or more is not someone most should attempt at going toe to toe with. To achieve just one red tab, or second degree status, the Marine attends a month long course that is designed to break you in half. They train 8 hours daily in the worst conditions possible, to include the heat room (basically a sauna).
Anyone attempting to get a second degree or higher status must go through an application process, the Marine must be in the most physically fit state possible, and again goes through some rough training. To include the use of live bayonets.
Any Marine trying to advance to fourth degree or 3 red tabs must also hold at least a first degree black belt in a civilian martial arts program that has been approved by the Corps. i.e.. Karate, Tae Kwon Do, etc. This is non-negotiable.
Basically, if anyone ever says they have a third, fourth, fifth, or sixth degree black belt in MCMAP, I don't suggest calling them out.
https://www.military1.com/basic-training/article/404435-special-forces-hand-to-hand-combat-training-which-is-the-most-lethal
Originally published on military1.com:
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A question posted on Quora asked, "In CQC (close quarters combat), who receives the most lethal hand to hand combat training: SEALs, Delta, Green Beret, Rangers, Marine Force Recon or Air Force PJs?" Below is just one of the responses. Check it out and add yours in the comments below.
By Trace Evans, Black Belt, Marine Corps Martial Arts Program
This is very person dependent so for the sake of the answer I will give a perfect example. The Marine Corps takes it in my book, call me biased. The Marine Corps Martial Arts Program is utilized to train every Marine in hand to hand, and is used in Spec Ops training alongside whatever crazy training they do on their own.
It was developed in 2001 and took techniques from multiple styles of martial arts. The techniques are designed to incapacitate, maim, or kill an opponent. MCMAP is a belt system starting with Tan.
There are 5 belts in all: Tan, Gray, Green, Brown, and Black
A Marine with a Green belt or above can earn a tan tab indicating instructor status. A black belt can earn a red tab indicating instructor trainer status, or second degree black. Black has up to 5 red tabs, with the fifth indicating sixth degree black.
Many Marines dislike MCMAP with most saying it doesn't teach much. This is wrong, in every way. While the beginner belts are basic techniques, the upper belts are brutal. Most advanced techniques are designed to kill, and anyone with a brown belt or above has gone full contact with another Marine (that's part of the syllabus).
Any Marine wielding a Red tab or more is not someone most should attempt at going toe to toe with. To achieve just one red tab, or second degree status, the Marine attends a month long course that is designed to break you in half. They train 8 hours daily in the worst conditions possible, to include the heat room (basically a sauna).
Anyone attempting to get a second degree or higher status must go through an application process, the Marine must be in the most physically fit state possible, and again goes through some rough training. To include the use of live bayonets.
Any Marine trying to advance to fourth degree or 3 red tabs must also hold at least a first degree black belt in a civilian martial arts program that has been approved by the Corps. i.e.. Karate, Tae Kwon Do, etc. This is non-negotiable.
Basically, if anyone ever says they have a third, fourth, fifth, or sixth degree black belt in MCMAP, I don't suggest calling them out.
https://www.military1.com/basic-training/article/404435-special-forces-hand-to-hand-combat-training-which-is-the-most-lethal
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This strangely popped up on my Facebook today. Shared for "perfect timing."
http://terminallance.com/2014/05/20/terminal-lance-323-tan-belt-ninja-ii/
http://terminallance.com/2014/05/20/terminal-lance-323-tan-belt-ninja-ii/
Terminal Lance - Terminal Lance #323 “Tan Belt Ninja II”
MCMAP (Marine Corps Martial Arts Program) is always an interesting thing to talk about. As soon as MCMAP training starts, everyone around you becomes an MMA fighter and a third degree black belt in Jujitsu that can tell you exactly what is wrong with the program and how it stacks up against other forms of martial arts. Myself being a mere plebeian with no former martial arts training, I never really cared either way for it. I’m not much of a...
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Are we talking H2H taught to the masses or H2H taught to SF? Because they are not the same things. MCMAP is pretty good stuff for mass distribution training, but is pretty basic stuff when compared to what SF guys often train. Why? Because the smaller size of SF groups allows them to choose very highly specialized training. A lot of SEAL, SF etc will contract big name instructors to teach them. And what they get is often a very eclectic mix of stuff ranging from BJJ to Kali to Muay Thai.
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