Posted on Dec 28, 2015
Cpl Kenny Woods
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Over the years I've tried to get into the national guard to continue to serve our nation, and have been denied due to tattoos, I really don't understand this rule.. Last time i checked, tattoos don't hinder my ability to fire a weapon , nor does it hinder my ability to receive or give orders... Just looking for some insight ...
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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Because being a Service Member is not only about "firing a weapon." It's about promoting a Brand. Brand USA. Although you (and I) find them acceptable, not everyone does, and until that changes we must live within said policies, which are clearly published.

America wants war hardened killers who we can send overseas on a moments notice. It also wants Marines who collect Toys for Tots, and are easily approachable. America is bipolar.
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SSgt Scott Reynolds
SSgt Scott Reynolds
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Who cares what the civilian populace thinks! As a Marine who has both fought in war and done numerous T4T events I've never seen tattoos hinder performance in either arena. The problem is we have general officers who care more about promotion, political correctness and public opinion than they do about standing up for their troops. We promote our brand through our professionalism both on and off the field of battle and will continue to do so with or without tattoos. To make any argument contrary to that statement is both invalid and asinine. We're taught to never judge a book by its cover unless it's to judge a member of the military! Let's pop the brown star cluster and call bullshit on this flawed line of thinking.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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SSgt Scott Reynolds - We should for a variety of reasons.

First among them is that we recruit directly from the civilian populace. Specifically from "impressionable youth" and we specifically target those in the 18 year old bracket. Those who are (still) HIGHLY INFLUENCED by their parents, and more than likely not to have served. A parent who sees something they view as "scary" or "not-professional" is not going to "buy in" on endorsing the Brand, and will "actively discourage" a life decision like joining the military. Since we use the Delayed Entry Program as our primary means of entry into the service, and a solid portion make the decision to join pre-18, this requires a parental signature to join.

Second is that our funding comes from Congress, who is made up of Civilians (though there are a "few" Reserve Officers, Retirees, and Veterans). Furthermore, it comes directly from the American Taxpayer, who again is predominantly Civilian. They write the check, they make the call.
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Capt Jeff S.
Capt Jeff S.
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Tatts don't make one tougher... It's what's in the man, not what's on the man.
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SSgt Scott Reynolds
SSgt Scott Reynolds
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Maj Werner Hindrichs - Are you having a stroke or are you just that misinformed? That symbol for scout snipers has been around long before the guys that you mentioned. Maybe if you weren't in the Air Force you'd actually have a clue as to what you're talking about. Additionally, I don't have to be tight lipped about my criticism of field grade and general officers, because the only way many of them attain those ranks is from being politically correct "yes" men, your delusional to think anything contrary to that. For an officer I'd expect more than some ad hominem attacks on my character. Maybe you should make a valid argument that has some substance and then get back to me, or you can just continue to make personal attacks against me.
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MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P
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Personally, I think it all boils down to the "Professional Image". Whether I agree or not, a large portion of today's society still view tattoos as belonging to the 'criminal' or 'delinquent' elements. Those same personalities expect a certain "look" and "image" from those in professional careers. For example, one of our best Paramedics looks like an ex-convict biker due to his hair style and multiple tattoos. Many people can't get past his image to see the huge amount of skill and knowledge he brings. There's an old saying, "Perception is Reality". How people perceive you is their reality of you. Doesn't matter if it's true or not.
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SSgt Jim Gilmore
SSgt Jim Gilmore
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I agree completely. I have 2 small tatts on either bicep and that is fine for me. I could give damn if you got your johnson tattooed as long as you do your job but the plain facts are that image is perception.
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Cpl Buck Buchanan
Cpl Buck Buchanan
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Most Marines are the " delinquent element" at least the guys I would trust to have my back in a fire fight.
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SFC Retention and Transition NCO (USAR)
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Might want to check with your recruiter again, the policy changed recently relaxing the standards.
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