Posted on Sep 10, 2021
Nearly half of U.S. electricity could come from solar by 2050, Biden administration says
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I just don’t know about energy policies President Biden is calling for, it sounds good but in reality, getting half of our energy from intermittent energy sources like solar and wind currently just isn’t sustainable. To my knowledge currently the intermittent energy sources use the electric grid as one would a battery for when the energy produced by solar/wing goes down because of clouds, no wind, etc.
Once a large enough portion of the electricity goes down, traditional power plants need to increase electricity production immediately; as intermittent energy sources become a larger portion of overall electricity being produced, we will reach a point where traditional energy sources can’t cover for the intermittent energy sources, the result being catastrophic power failures with large chunks of our Country being without power. Do we have any electrical engineers out there that can provide real information on percentages of energy being discussed and how reliable they are?
I just don’t know about energy policies President Biden is calling for, it sounds good but in reality, getting half of our energy from intermittent energy sources like solar and wind currently just isn’t sustainable. To my knowledge currently the intermittent energy sources use the electric grid as one would a battery for when the energy produced by solar/wing goes down because of clouds, no wind, etc.
Once a large enough portion of the electricity goes down, traditional power plants need to increase electricity production immediately; as intermittent energy sources become a larger portion of overall electricity being produced, we will reach a point where traditional energy sources can’t cover for the intermittent energy sources, the result being catastrophic power failures with large chunks of our Country being without power. Do we have any electrical engineers out there that can provide real information on percentages of energy being discussed and how reliable they are?
Nearly half of U.S. electricity could come from solar by 2050, Biden administration says
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It isn't about production, it is about storage. We do not have the capability necessary to store enough energy to use green energy effectively. I am all for upping green energy, but it doesn't matter if you can't augment the grid when it is necessary. That was essentially our problem here in TX during the freeze this year. The grid relied on green to provide 10% or so of the energy and when it didn't because they had no capability and no stored energy, then with the coal and gas plants not getting a permit from the feds to increase production, we were in an energy deficit and had blackouts. I will say, they are working on the storage problem, which is good, they just aren't there. There is a pretty good series on Youtube by The Physics Girl that covered this if interested.
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SPC Erich Guenther
Yes this is an unattainable goal been discussed several times by the Utility Industry, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Mark Cuban, etc. We can't even reach 30% any time in this century. So Biden is putting this out there to score points knowing full well it will never happen.
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SFC (Join to see)
Good discussion. There are many questions that need to be solved in storage before solar and wind energy become the solution, not just in storage, but in infrastructure needed to make it happen. They talk about pipelines screwing up the environment but they refuse to address the issues for solar and wind.
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Just one question. Will solar provide half our energy because it becomes more effective, or because they will take everything else off-line to get to that goal?
With apologies to Ned Washington writer of the song "Rawhide" and performed by Ned Laine.
Rollin', rollin', rollin'
Rollin', rollin', rollin'
Rollin', rollin', rollin'
Brown Out!
Keep rollin', rollin', rollin'
Though the demand is swollen
Keep power failures rollin'
Brown Out!
Through rain and wind and weather
Hell-bent for leather
Wishin' lectric was flowin.
All the things I'm missin'
fridge, TV, oven in the kitchen
Are waiting for lectric to get goin.
Coal Plants!!!
Shut em down, cut em off
Cut em Off, shut em down
Shut em down, cut em off
Brown Out!
Frackin Natural Gas!!!
-Shut em down, cut em off
Cut em Off, shut em down
Shut em down, cut em off
Brown Out!
Oil Wells!!!
Shut em down, cut em off
Cut em Off, shut em down
Shut em down, cut em off
Brown Out!
Keep movin', movin', movin'
Though voters disapprovin'
Keep on ternative energy movin'
Brown Out!
Don't try to understand 'em
Just sell lectric cars and strand em
Soon livin power failure far and wide.
My heart’s calculatin'
My true love will be waitin' waitin' waitin'
Be waitin in darkness by my side.
Brown Out!
Brown Out!
Brown Out!!!!!!!!
Browwwwwn Ouuuuuuuut.
With apologies to Ned Washington writer of the song "Rawhide" and performed by Ned Laine.
Rollin', rollin', rollin'
Rollin', rollin', rollin'
Rollin', rollin', rollin'
Brown Out!
Keep rollin', rollin', rollin'
Though the demand is swollen
Keep power failures rollin'
Brown Out!
Through rain and wind and weather
Hell-bent for leather
Wishin' lectric was flowin.
All the things I'm missin'
fridge, TV, oven in the kitchen
Are waiting for lectric to get goin.
Coal Plants!!!
Shut em down, cut em off
Cut em Off, shut em down
Shut em down, cut em off
Brown Out!
Frackin Natural Gas!!!
-Shut em down, cut em off
Cut em Off, shut em down
Shut em down, cut em off
Brown Out!
Oil Wells!!!
Shut em down, cut em off
Cut em Off, shut em down
Shut em down, cut em off
Brown Out!
Keep movin', movin', movin'
Though voters disapprovin'
Keep on ternative energy movin'
Brown Out!
Don't try to understand 'em
Just sell lectric cars and strand em
Soon livin power failure far and wide.
My heart’s calculatin'
My true love will be waitin' waitin' waitin'
Be waitin in darkness by my side.
Brown Out!
Brown Out!
Brown Out!!!!!!!!
Browwwwwn Ouuuuuuuut.
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SFC (Join to see)
Great take off sir. My personal opinion is once intermittent energy sources reach 50% we will more likely have black outs.
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SPC Erich Guenther
Biden was probably told it was an unattainable goal but decided to make it one anyway because that is what JFK did with the Moon Shot. In reality JFK was told it was possible before he made the commitment.
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