Posted on Dec 10, 2015
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I don't have any comments on this topic as I am not that informed to make any sensible comments. I do believe General Dunford. It's pretty much common sense we will be in, not only Afghanistan, but Iraq and Iran for years.
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BAGRAM AIR FIELD, Afghanistan — A little more than a year after commanding international forces in Afghanistan, Gen. Joseph Dunford returned to the country in a different role but to a familiar landscape Tuesday in his first visit as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

When he finished his command of coalition troops in the country in August 2014, the plan was for the U.S. to close its bases and pull all but a small contingent of embassy security troops from the country by the end of 2015. But decisions changed with Afghan forces struggling to fend off an aggressive insurgency and there are still roughly 10,000 American servicemembers in Afghanistan spread out over several bases. Violence in the country has continued unabated.

As President Barack Obama has scaled back plans to completely withdraw from Afghanistan, both administration officials and military leaders have struggled to define the mission to a war-weary public, taking pains to call it a noncombat mission while acknowledging troops will still be in harm’s way. While the majority of U.S. troops are focusing on advising and training Afghan forces, Americans still see combat in the country and 16 have died this year, according to iCasualties.org.

“I still call it a war — there’s still a war in Afghansitan,” Dunford said in an interview with Stars and Stripes Tuesday. “What we’ve shifted away from is a large presence of U.S. combat forces fighting that war.”

Dunford and Gen. John Campbell, current commander of international forces in Afghanistan, were at Bagram Tuesday to meet troops as part of a USO tour and both sat down with Stars and Stripes to discuss the U.S. mission in Afghanistan.

Obama, who campaigned on a platform to end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, has twice delayed the full U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan; the current plan is for the nearly 10,000 U.S. troops currently in Afghanistan to stay into next year and drop by about half toward the end of 2016 or beginning of 2017. Dunford said it may be a long process, though he wouldn’t predict how long American troops may remain.

“There’s work to do, certainly, years to do it, certainly,” he said. “But when you look at what’s happening over the last couple of years, there ought to be room to be encouraged because our goal was to stand up the Afghan forces and have them increasingly take responsibility for their own security.”

Campbell said several factors, including the rise of Islamic State militants in eastern Afghanistan, informed the need to keep troops in the country longer than expected. The fragility of the Afghan security forces, who he acknowledged still struggle with logistics and intelligence sharing, was also underscored in September when Taliban fighters overran the major northern city of Kunduz.

It took Afghan troops two weeks to fully regain control of the city and only with the help of U.S. special forces and air power. Campbell called the Afghan forces inability to stave off the attack on Kunduz a “wake-up call.”

“They can’t let that happen again,” Campbell said. “It was a huge IO (information operations) win for the Taliban.”

Despite 14 years of war, and a summer fighting season that saw record numbers of Afghan troop casualties, Campbell and Dunford disputed the notion that Afghanistan is a lost cause.

“I fundamentally believe that our presence here over the last decade-plus has made a huge difference in that al-Qaida has not been able to conduct an attack against the United States since 9/11 and I truly believe that’s in large part due to the pressure we’ve placed on al-Qaida in the region,” Dunford said.

Both he and Campbell continue to see a peace deal between the Taliban and Afghan government as the only lasting solution, though neither would put a timeline on when that might happen.

Potential negotiations may be complicated by what appears to be a splintering Taliban. Recent reports out of Pakistan said Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mansoor may be dead or badly wounded after a shootout with a rival Taliban faction. The Taliban have since released an audio recording purportedly from Mansoor saying he is alive and well.

“Everything I have right now says Mansoor is alive,” Campbell said. “I think what it tells you is there’s a lot of uncertainty in the Taliban leadership.”

http://www.stripes.com/news/dunford-on-first-afghanistan-visit-as-joint-chiefs-chair-years-of-work-ahead-1.382878
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SSG Raymond Whitener
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I disagree. The US doesn't have years of work to do in Afghanistan, Afghans have years of work to do in their country. It's time for us to have Advisers only in the country, just like we had, and it was working, before we threw 100K soldiers at it, and haven't gained anything for our country that is substantial
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We have been in Afghanistan since 2001. If Afghanis are not ready to protect their own country after 15 years, then they won't be in another 15. If we are to stay and exact real change in this country, then it will need to become a province of the US, and we can setup our own government. This would be the only way to make significant change in Afghanistan
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SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL
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SSG Raymond Whitener I agree with you 100%. As a former Afghanistan Veteran I would like to see the Afghanistan stand on it own two feet, how many more lives will America have to give for them to realize they can defeat the enemy on their own.
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Good responses from all of you SSG Raymond Whitener,Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin, SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL. Three responses, three great ones.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
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Most of that time was spent defeating the Taliban and Al Qaeda, taking control of the country, and installing an election process to establish a new government. We had to rebuild their military and police force literally from ground up. While 15 years sounds like plenty of time to do this, it's not. Especially with a country which has a small literacy rate and their tribal make up. If we were talking about an industrialized nation I would then agree but such is not the case. To make matters worse, it took us a long time to get our hands around the problem in the first place to determine how to rebuild. One of the first realizations was trying to teach them technical capabilities when they could barely read.

I too am an Afghanistan Veteran with two deployments (2002 and 2013). My second deployment involved training and mentoring them at the senior officer level down to the common soldier. I've seen the decade of progress, and having lived in 3rd world nations throughout my childhood as a military brat, I do witnessed the challenges it takes to build up these countries and train their armies. I would also like to not only see Afghanistan stand on its own, but to also become one of our greatest allies in the region. This will not happen if we let them fend for themselves before they're ready.
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I think Gen Dunford gets it. It requires a real army to protect Afghanistan from the insurgents.
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SGT (Join to see) - What I did not see was a robust plan to fight the Taliban which will be problematic for Afghanistan. The Taliban can use time and space to attack, defend, or retreat.
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MAJ Ken Landgren, I saw on the National news today that ISIS has robbed enough banks, they have over a billion dollars. I looked it up, but didn't see anything verifying it. Have you heard this?
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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SGT (Join to see) - Yes when they invaded Iraq they took cash from the many banks.
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MAJ Ken Landgren, I guess there wasn't much, if any resistance. I had not heard this, much less thought about it. No wonder they have so much money. I thought all along they were still working with BinLadin's money. Thanks.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
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He believes this because his experts on the ground out there several years ago told him this would be the case. I sat across from him and briefed him on the progress of the Afghan Air Force training. We were initially given 3 years at the troop levels of advisors we had at the time. This appeared sufficient so long as we had the flexibility to reevaluate the progress. The President later went against Gen Dunford's final recommendation and gave us a year before the pull out. The friends I know from the region are confirming things are getting really bad out there now.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin, Major, thank you for that post. Things are getting really bad now with the military being there or with the countries citizens, or both?
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
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SGT (Join to see) - With the pull out of forces throughout the region (the pre December 2014 numbers), things are getting much worse. My region was near Herat for example, at Shindand AB. We've completely pulled out of Shindand (to include most of the Afghan Air Force I'm told), and I'm not aware of any coalition military presence in the city of Herat anymore. Herat has taken a large step backwards in security according to folks I know from the region. Just this week, Kandahar's airport was attacked in a way we have not seen in a long time.

Gen Dunford was well aware and agreed with our assessment that we needed more time to train the Afghan military and police forces. We originally had 3 years to do this with the current troop level at the time (end of 2013), which Gen Dunford pushed for. Politics is what ultimately cut us short by two years as the President decided to reduce to 10K strong military advisors. Last I heard they are all mostly based out of Kabul and Bagram.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin, Politics is what kills any strategic war. It didn't work in Vietnam, and it will not work in this war. You'd think a lesson was taught by the politics in the Vietnam war. It's a lot strategy, out the window because of politics.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
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Agreed... It was very frustrating to watch this play out while I was still in theater.
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