Posted on May 14, 2016
Why do veterans and active duty members still stereotype by rank after someone has retired or left the service?
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I bring up this question because my wife was treated very poorly by another spouse because of my rank! Here husband is a Major in the Marines and she has told others that is the reason she doesn't like my wife.
Why play the "Rank Card?" RP Members your thoughts?
Why is this still happening in our veteran and retirement community? I've always addressed service members here on RP by their rank initially out of respect for what they have accomplished and then I drop it and start addressing them by their first name as much as possible. Accordingly, RP allows you to highlight the name of another member, so your RP Connections will receive an email and the rank is required - got it!
I think once we leave the service there shouldn't be a stereotyping of rank or service - we should get along and respect each other as veterans and retirees that served a "common purpose!" Again, this just my opinion!
By thw way my wife has never played the "rank card" and never will!
Why play the "Rank Card?" RP Members your thoughts?
Why is this still happening in our veteran and retirement community? I've always addressed service members here on RP by their rank initially out of respect for what they have accomplished and then I drop it and start addressing them by their first name as much as possible. Accordingly, RP allows you to highlight the name of another member, so your RP Connections will receive an email and the rank is required - got it!
I think once we leave the service there shouldn't be a stereotyping of rank or service - we should get along and respect each other as veterans and retirees that served a "common purpose!" Again, this just my opinion!
By thw way my wife has never played the "rank card" and never will!
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs - While waiting in line commissary, a woman weaving her cart through line. She explains as she goes ahead: "I am a Colonel So-and-So's wife. I get front of the line privileges." From behind me another voice booms, "Well, I am the CG's wife. I suggest you return to the end of the line, Mrs. So-and-so." Some just, simply don't "get it."
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SGT Beth Day
I hated the "Mrs. (fill in the blank with rank)".
I'll add here, I'm old, so most spouses of high ranking officers were women.
My favorite story ...
I was TDY, working for the post newspaper. One day I, an E4 at the time, was covering an officer's wives tea to "welcome" new wives to the brigade. I was sitting next to this very young, very pregnant, 2nd LT's wife. She was from Puerto Rico, her English wasn't great. I grew up in south Florida, learned some Spanish and was talking with her ... sort of
I'll add here, I'm old, so most spouses of high ranking officers were women.
My favorite story ...
I was TDY, working for the post newspaper. One day I, an E4 at the time, was covering an officer's wives tea to "welcome" new wives to the brigade. I was sitting next to this very young, very pregnant, 2nd LT's wife. She was from Puerto Rico, her English wasn't great. I grew up in south Florida, learned some Spanish and was talking with her ... sort of
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LCDR (Join to see)
I have seen that situation before. during mid-day lunch--active duty in uniform have front of line priveledges---very happy to give way to the uniforms.
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SPC Christopher Jackson
A Superiority complex maybe? There's a stark contrast between Civilian life and Military life. I spent the overwhelming amount of my service time in Germany. Personally, I never experienced this myself. Although I HAD heard about things such as this happening. I've heard from others that rank has it's privileges, but wow. Something like this either brings out the worst in people, or it can bring out the BEST in people, based on ones character.
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Playing the rank card is a sign of insecurity and lack of self identity. That's the same as a PhD demands others to call him/her "doctor". It's different when in the Military. Aside of the "respect" aspect, it is my job to address others with their ranks because it is in the regulations and I am doing my job. Spouses like that MAJ's wife just need to grow up and get over themselves.
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PFC Lisa McDonald
Something I learned when watching the movie about LT General Hal Moore (We were soldiers) I think applies here. Real leaders inspire leadership in all around them. Maybe you can look at these wives as a vehicle to tell if their husbands are real leaders! There is a huge difference between managing and actually leading.
Are they leading because their husband inspires leadership or are they trying to manage others via their husbands rank? I think it could also be the opposite also where the wife encourages the husband to be a better leader. All this could apply also where the wife is the O-rank.
Are they leading because their husband inspires leadership or are they trying to manage others via their husbands rank? I think it could also be the opposite also where the wife encourages the husband to be a better leader. All this could apply also where the wife is the O-rank.
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Capt Elmer Lupton
Is a business context, calling a PhD "Doctor" is often appropriate. It communicates technical capability and status. However, I leave it to other people to call me Dr. I don't introduce myself that way.
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SSG Brian Pyle
I totally agree with the insecurity aspect. I disagree with the doctor part. I think every person that goes through that amount of schooling should respectfully be called Dr. I believe that the major's wife in the story had very little in her life to be happy about, also if her husband is the same way he will probably never get above Major. Great leaders rarely put themselves first, because every great leader leads by example. As an example i will step outside the military (because there are many great examples in the Military). I work for UPS and when a driver achieves 25 years of safe driving they receive a sign and a very close parking spot. One driver had them put his sign as far away from the building as possible because he refused to take any advantage for doing his job.
Another example is the best division manager I have ever known. He would park in the furthest corner of the employee parking lot that is approximately a half mile away even when it was snowing and windy. I asked him one day why he would do that? He said Brian, if I park next to the building and go straight to my office, I will never know what is wrong in my operations, the drivers know and if I can walk in with some for 15 minutes I can make my operations better" He went on to say that his management teams arrive to early and have too much to do in the a.m. to get a true sense.
Another example is the best division manager I have ever known. He would park in the furthest corner of the employee parking lot that is approximately a half mile away even when it was snowing and windy. I asked him one day why he would do that? He said Brian, if I park next to the building and go straight to my office, I will never know what is wrong in my operations, the drivers know and if I can walk in with some for 15 minutes I can make my operations better" He went on to say that his management teams arrive to early and have too much to do in the a.m. to get a true sense.
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Playing the "Rank Card" sounds pretty Petty but I am a Petty Officer. I'm sorry I couldn't help myself with the Cheesy Joke.
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
SFC Charlie Broadus II - ...
And You Said So Because They're "PETTY OFFICERS".
And So Are a Few Others.
But Their Smart-ass WIVES Are Worse Than ANY Officer COULD Or WOULD Be.
I Too Have Seen Them In Action, But Wonder I Their Husbands Have Ever SEEN Them Do It, And What Was Done ABOUT It.
And You Said So Because They're "PETTY OFFICERS".
And So Are a Few Others.
But Their Smart-ass WIVES Are Worse Than ANY Officer COULD Or WOULD Be.
I Too Have Seen Them In Action, But Wonder I Their Husbands Have Ever SEEN Them Do It, And What Was Done ABOUT It.
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