Posted on Jun 20, 2016
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Pushed by the UK Independence Party half of Conservative MPs, five cabinet ministers, several other MPs. They argue the EU is holding them back and imposes too many rules on business and charges billions in ₤ per/year in fees. They also want Britain to take back full control of its borders and reduce the number of people coming here to live and/or work. PM Cameron leads the opposition.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
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I don't blame them. Here in Denmark people are getting sick and tired of all the EU and their "one nation law". Each country is individual. Denmark has again instituted their borders and pass ports are check when crossing. Danes are getting tired of being ruled from some place else.
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MAJ Carl Ballinger - I got here on adventure, stayed and started a business shoeing horses. I finished my career here in Europe with the then 7th ARCOM, retiring in 2006. You can read a bit more about me at: http://beslagsmed.wix.com/mikelwdawson
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MSG (Join to see) - Yes it is, but Denmark had enough of all the illegals from Syria and such. The amount of crime has risen and people were pissed. Denmark said piss on the EU and started again with border checks of which I am glad for.
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SGM Mikel Dawson - But if you say the US should enforce our border laws, you're branded a bigot ... So much for the Left's war cry of "Look at progressive Europe" as an example of the the wonderful world of diversity and inclusion.
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MSG (Join to see) - That's because they don't live over here and don't understand what "no border" does to a country. United States is getting there.
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CPT Jack Durish
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I haven't the foggiest notion as to what Great Britain should do. Given the fact that I rarely vote with the majority it seems I don't have much of a notion of what my own nation should do. I suspect many, maybe most British citizens are a lot like me. Thus, expect that a lot of darts will be thrown at boards in pubs until a decision is reached. I only wish we had pubs in America so we could decide weighty matters so wisely.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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As it stands, I think the UK offers more to the EU than the EU offers to the UK. It is not a "mutually beneficial" arrangement.

As such, why would they want to continue their relationship under such terms?

It is true that their presence offers stability to Europe, just like our presence within the Middle East, East Asia, etc offers stability to the World though. However, is European Stability one of their stated goals? We have weighed the options and determined we want global stability so we maintain a presence, even though it has the potential to threaten the US.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS I figure if it was just a matter of stability, well, that's what they've got NATO for.
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MSG (Join to see) - NATO is specifically about "military" stability whereas the EU/UK situation has massive links into Economic Stability which is outside of NATO's purview.

Expanding the parallel, do we (US) provide any kind of Economic Stability to the Middle East with our physical presence there as a Force? Political Stability sure, and I'm sure "indirectly" that would assist on the Economic side, but our purpose isn't Economic in nature. Same idea applies to NATO as a whole, hence the "need" for a EU. Different scopes of operation.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS - We do have NAFTA.
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MSG (Join to see) - Which is Non-Governmental. It's a treaty more than anything. Non-comparable.

The EU is a "Government Body" though an oddly formed one.
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