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Recently I've been hearing countless remarks, and seeing posts from soldiers and veterans alike. Down talking our commander in chief. How do you feel about this? Should this be allowed within our ranks? Does freedom of speech really play a part?<br><br>
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Name-calling or bashing anyone on social media is tasteless and unprofessional, whether you are an Officer, a Warrant Officer, an NCO, Junior Enlisted, or Civilian. I supported both of our Presidents in all four of the terms they have
served since I put on this uniform and it chagrins me to see my peers
trash either one of them. HOWEVER, the questioning of judgement or motives of those appointed over Enlisted military members is their prerogative, and if we move to a place where there is no freedom of speech on social media platforms, we will quickly become fascist.<br>
served since I put on this uniform and it chagrins me to see my peers
trash either one of them. HOWEVER, the questioning of judgement or motives of those appointed over Enlisted military members is their prerogative, and if we move to a place where there is no freedom of speech on social media platforms, we will quickly become fascist.<br>
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CMSgt Donald ONeill
SPC Bradley Stensland - Trump relied on Gen Jack Keen and Gen Kellogg for advice .
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CPL Henry Miller
The Agreement for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan, commonly known as the United States–Taliban deal or the Doha Accord, was a peace agreement signed by the United States and the Taliban on 29 February 2020 in Doha, Qatar, to bring an end to the 2001–2021 war in Afghanistan.---from this point to the Taliban strolling into the capital saw our military cut to the bone = 2500 personnel ! What could that tiny force do at that time?
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The checks and balances are in place. Unless impeached, he is the Commander In Chief. Promoting propaganda that is contrary to good order and discipline can lead to a Court Martial. <br>Don't do it, don't tolerate those who do. Especially from a superior that refuses to have his authority questioned... Because that is just being a hypocrite.<br>In the meantime, exercise your right to vote, refuse to follow illegal orders and defend the Constitution.<br>
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Amn Joseph H.
Try to remember that in the middle of our civil war Veterans in the field voted for Lincoln, rather than vote for those wanting to abdicate and end the war with two nations. The Veterans voted to finish the job that was best for the country. Not sure, but that may also have been the very first time soldiers in the field got to vote even.
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SGT John West
LtCol Bruce Janis - Can you be more specific on when "a time" was? I enlisted in 1978, and always was encouraged to vote. I was my units voting assistance NCO (thank you for another add duty Top!) in Germany. I'm happy to say we went from less than 40% of unit members being registered to vote to over 75% in one year. Just by putting the word out that they can and do have a duty as a citizen to vote.
Frankly, I'd be surprised to find that military personal was ever discouraged to vote.
Frankly, I'd be surprised to find that military personal was ever discouraged to vote.
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SFC Jerald Bottcher
LtCol Bruce Janis - When I was in I had to actually search out my unit's voting officer. It was almost as if they were hiding the fact that you could and should vote. Many times I would send my requests for ballots in (months in advance) and I would receive my ballots to late for my vote to be counted. This made me angry!
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let me make a couple points. Im no longer subject to the UCMJ! so i can pretty much say anything i want (freedom of speech)! not saying the IRS wont come after me! But as long as your ACTIVE Duty, it is your job to respect the position of POTUS and your Commander in Chief, even if you dont like him or his policies. When i was in Alaska and they forced the military to go to the AFB Hanger to see Clinton, there was a E-7 AF NCO that was saying something derogitory about Clinton (which hated the military). Secret Service over heard him and he got booted out of the military. Ive seen a post before that the same situation has happened with Obama also. If your Active Duty, you just cant do it without a "chance" of you being charged under UCMJ. Thats why I was suprised that some of you active duty people on here making some of your coments. not saying i disagree with you, but your taking unnecessary chances on your career. and if your a senior NCO or officer, your definately taking a chance. Not to mention we all know now that the NSA monitors FB, along with your phone, computor, internet, etc. I know you want tovoice you opinions, but think first and maybe let veterans speak for you...........Now my second point, If im not active duty, I will call it like i see it, if his policies hurt the military, when he tries to take away our benefits we were promised and sacrificed for, when he is lieing to us or trying to BS military families, im going to make it known best i can. if your active duty, about the only thing you can do is maybe talk within your small circle of buddies and most of all go vote! A lot of military just say oh well when it comes to voting and skip it. if all military and vets vote, that is a pretty large group. and like the POTUS said himself, "Elections have consequences"! i think people are realizing that, but too late. And never believe those STAGED photo ops and SPEECHES with military in the background, they are politically staged. Sorry to say, but it is well known that Democrat politicians do not like the military and will hollow it out and take everything they can from it. they are the first ones to throw the military up for cuts but at the same time want to fund illegals, etc. i cannot remember in my lifetime, one democrat president (maybe Kennedy 50 years ago) that supported the military. they just show up for your vote and then go vote away your pay raise. i could keep going but just beware active duty brothers, they will make a example out of you to try to scare anyone against their agenda!
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LT William Pellegrini
Somehow you seem to think that the Democrats are the ones attempting to hollow out the military. It ain't. The GOP is the political party that cuts the budgets and then blames the DNC for doing what the GOP do. Just like the GOP are the prime movers to entry into most if not all of the Wars we should never have been involved in, starting with Viet Nam. Eisenhower got us involved in the Vietnam quagmire. Kennedy got assassinated trying to get us out of that quagmire. Johnson attempted to get out using so called "Peace Talk", that the Republican Party, led by Nixon, sabotaged. Nixon expanded the war which led to ultimate defeat. A hellofa Administration seeing as his V.P. resigning rather than being Impeached. Several years later Nixon was forced of of office or be impeached for rather large abuses of power. Which led to approximately 6 years of Peace. Peace that was broken by Reagan/Bush who involved the U.S. is several wars of choice. As an aside, Regan/Bush campaigns interfered with talks by Pres. Carter with Iran and the release of hostages. And I don't want to get into the Gdubya's incompetence that got the U.S. involved in several wars in Afghanistan and the Middle East. Wars we are still involved in today.
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MAJ (Join to see)
LT William Pellegrini - LT, your take on history is a bit off. I'm not sure if you were alive during most of the times you mention; not necessary to have been, as long as you're an astute observer of history. I was a kid when Iran took and held our hostages (Carter administration) for over 400 days. They released them on 20 JAN 81; the SAME DAY that Reagan was sworn in as president. Coincidence? Think again.
Viet Nam expanded under Johnson (not Nixon) more than any other president, with 1968 being a high water mark. I wasn't alive then, but do know history. I'd suggest you do some cursory reading, beyond the lectures you may (or may not) have received in college.
Viet Nam expanded under Johnson (not Nixon) more than any other president, with 1968 being a high water mark. I wasn't alive then, but do know history. I'd suggest you do some cursory reading, beyond the lectures you may (or may not) have received in college.
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LT William Pellegrini
MAJ (Join to see) - I actually lived thru most of the events I talked about above. I flew F4-B/Js on three cruises in Vietnam. All but the first two weeks in the North. Interesting times. A war we should never have been involved in. And we paid dearly for it. If you go back and dig really deep you will see that Pres. Johnson was the force behind the Peace Talks with N.Vietnamese. While the talks were ongoing members of Nixon's campaign did something illegal. They contacted the N.Vietnamese and persuaded them to not sign a cease fire with President Johnson. That Nixon would give them a better deal. They didn't sign. Johnson talked with Goldwater complaining about such actions as being very close to treason. Goldwater shined him on. Pres. Nixon actually expanded the war by invading Cambodia, who had been neutral until then. You can go to Wikipedia for the full story. Here is a opening line ...."The Cambodian campaign (also known as the Cambodian incursion and the Cambodian liberation) was a series of military operations conducted in eastern Cambodia in mid-1970 by South Vietnam and the United States as an expansion of the Vietnam War and the Cambodian Civil War." But all that doesn't really matter except for the fact that the Vietnam War and several Wars thereafter were no wars of necessity. No one actually attacked the United States before we entered the war. WE, our government CHOSE to go to war in Afghanistan, Iraq as well as Vietnam. And in every case we did not win those wars. One could say we were actually defeated. Anyway hope this long read points you toward a deeper investigation of the wars that the U.S. has fought since the end of WWII. I think you will find that Korea was the only war that we had to fight. Wikipedia is a good starting point. They publish a list of their sources that you can follow up on if you like. Good stuff. Not all of it puts the USA in the heroes slot, but then what the country needs is to have a much better grasp of the History that has led us to what could be the very last free election for U.S. citizens.
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