Posted on Dec 1, 2017
LTJG Officer in training for Submarine Warfare qualification
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Back when leaders (NCOs) took their people "behind the boiler", that way of disciplien seemed to work back then. Do you believe that form discipline would work today?

What are some of your craziest discipline stories you have either conducted or witnessed?
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CSM Richard StCyr
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My battle buddy and I having to dig a grave render honors and burry cigarette butts we walked by without picking them up at Ft Hunter Liggett Ca. Neither of us smoked but Satan the Operations NCO saw us in our act of gross indiscipline and the rest is history. But you can bet your ass I never walked by a piece of trash or cigarette but the rest of my Army life.
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CAPT Kevin B.
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When I was at boot, the CC was anal about all his swabbies being able to do 50 pushups. Unfortunately that wasn't my strong suit and I got special attention. So the Chief put a large dog turd on the ground under my face, telling me he'd take it away at 50. I brown nosed at 48. Next time he told me he saved up one of his turds. I made 50. Discipline? Maybe. Motivation? Definitely.
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SGT Dave Tracy
SGT Dave Tracy
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LOL!!!!!!!
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SFC Platoon Sergeant
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Sir,

I can only speak on the Army and my experience thus far. What I've seen though is that in todays Army we are told to use counseling statements. Provide a course of action to help the Soldier correct his or her deficenies and then evaluate if it worked or not after a set time that you've determined or determined with input from the soldier (if it's needed or warranted). I've done this and seen it work and not work. I think the biggest issue is that we end up doing paperwork on Soldiers, having them disciplined through UCMJ actions when they're so young that they majority of the time don't understand how these things can effect them as they move on in their career.

When I was a private I didn't experience this though, I made a mistake and I knew that I was going to get corrective training in the form of a smoke session. I'm grateful now looking back that that was all I recieved. I easily could have recieved UCMJ action that could have severly effected me making a career of the Army.
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SPC David Willis
SPC David Willis
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People don't realize a smoke session will stay in your mind forever, and help gain promotion points in the form of a better PT score. Paper can ruin you. One of the last times I ever earned a smoke session my team leader looked at me and said I could either have it on paper or in the grass, and I just looked at him and said fuck me up sgt.
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SFC Platoon Sergeant
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Exactly, I’ll gladly take a smoke session over paperwork.

However, it’s not impossible to come back from. I received a field grade Article 15 back in 2011, as a SGT. 25 months later I was back and up to SSG and now I’ve earned my P for SFC.
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SPC David Willis
SPC David Willis
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Congrats, yea its not impossible as long as the motivation isn't impacted you can recover. I also like a smoke session because its team building exercises, our platoon would get smoked for hours, and during that time there was a lot of encouragement from each other, as well an almost spiteful attitude from us to the NCOs almost like "you aint gonna break us". In fact some of my fondest moments were shit talking the NCOs while they were smoking us, telling them they had nothing on us saying things like cant smoke a rock, and then getting up after it was over and smoking a cigarette and telling the NCOs how bad they just smoked us haha.
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SPC David Willis
SPC David Willis
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Of course there were obvious times where you were smart to just shut your mouth and do the push ups as well.
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