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1SG Steven Stankovich
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<p>I read this article this afternoon.&nbsp; I have some pretty colorful opinions on the subject.&nbsp; What are yours?</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>http://www.defenseone.com/politics/2014/01/its-time-cut-military-health-and-pension-benefits/76154/#.Usa-zVvSg2k.facebook</p><div class="pta-link-card"><div class="pta-link-card-picture"><img src="http://cdn.defenseone.com/media/img/upload/2014/01/02/1144751_1/open-graph.jpg"></div><div class="pta-link-card-content"><div class="pta-link-card-title"><a href="http://www.defenseone.com/politics/2014/01/its-time-cut-military-health-and-pension-benefits/76154/" target="_blank">It's Time to Cut Military Health and Pension Benefits</a></div><div class="pta-link-card-description">In a new poll, a majority of defense and national security experts say it's time to cut military health and pension benefits. By Sara Sorcher</div></div><div style="clear: both;"></div><div class="pta-box-hide"><i class="icon-remove"></i></div></div>
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<p>The problem is not the cost of military healthcare. It is the cost of healthcare in America. This country needs to&nbsp;perform some serious self evaluation of how we practice healthcare, and who benefits from how we practice healthcare (it's not the end user to the extent that&nbsp;it should be; it's the provider to a degree that boggles the mind when you see how much money changes hands). There are other western democracies with much better healthcare systems which operate with greater efficiency and effectiveness.....most often driven by the desire to improve the quality of life of its society; not make a select group wealthy.</p><p><br></p><p>Secondly, the military is such a small percentage of the total population (less than 1%), does anybody truly believe that slashing the hard earned benefits our nation's veterans/service members is going to significantly improve our country's fiscal situation? Any cursory examination of the numbers will prove otherwise to anybody with a brain in their head, and no political agenda to push. Reducing benefits to veterans/ service members, a group that totals less than the number of people who receive some form of public assistance, will not solve our budget problems.</p><p><br></p><p>Pension benefits for a 20 year or even 30 year career are modest by comparison to the some options available to civilian workers who have opportunities for company sponsored deferred compensation plans where companies match employee contributions, or tie payouts to stock market gains, or enormous company profits. How many service members retire in such comfort that a follow on career is not a necessity? </p><p><br></p><p>Finally, when congress gets serious about balancing the budget and reclaiming our financial stability and independence, it will begin by cutting the ridiculous incentives it provides itself, and reducing the entitlements collected by those who have learned helplessness resulting&nbsp;from government give away programs. Premium healthcare plans and lifetime pensions for members who serve as little as four years in congress coupled with federal money funneled to personal companies/investments which make them rich in very short time spans, and hand outs to people who never develop the skills or desire to work cost this country far more than the benefits collected by a select few who of their own accord volunteer to serve often giving their last full measure for the greater good. When congress cuts its benefits and entitlements across the board, I will support a proportional reduction in military healthcare/pension benefits. Until then, it's just political pandering. </p><p><br></p><p>Master chief rant complete. Out.</p>
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1SG Steven Stankovich
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Tracking on all Master Chief...very well put...


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MSgt John McGowan
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CMC Real good rant. Alos a good post with a good amount of information. I recently was send to the ER from a walk-in clinic. Total bill over $4000 dollars and I didn't see the Doctor but 3 or 4 minutes. Spend 6 hours in ER and was billed $100 for one pill. You are correct, health care is just to darn high. I never though much about just how little our population is (military) but we do pay a lot on illegals. Come to America, every thing free.
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I feel that this is touchy topic for everyone.  Retirees feel betrayed, those already enlisted feel like they were sold a bill of goods.  I have served for 8 and assumed that retirements would be available at 20 years.  Should I be told that it would be available at a later age would upset me greatly.  Not because I would not be able to succeed as I believe that many veterans can, but because it is not what was told us when we signed on the dotted line.  However, we are the military force of a democratic and free nation drawing down from multiple engagements.  History has shown that a habit is to radically reduce military power to save money.  Thus this is not the actions of American politicians attacking the military, a concept that seems to have created a very divisive and partisan relationship between the military and congress as well as between the parties, but instead it is just a fact.  This is what free nations do after wars.  Happens every time, at least with manpower.  My concern is that a cut in benefits is easier to remove than implement and should the United States need men and women to fight wars again once the economy is strong again, what incentives will many have to enter service at a time of great personal risk and sacrifice?  With reduced benefits (health and retirement) and the example that those benefits are not held sacred by those that make the rules, promises of benefits and compensation would hold significantly less influence.  A broad reduction in benefits is a short-sighted solution to a problem with consequences that are much more long term. 

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I don't see any justification in taking away benefits that were promised to soldiers and veterans! If you asked a current soldier or seperated vet they would not encourage you to join. They would tell you that the current administration is full of lies and back door deals that are not in the interest of the soldier or their families! I would not reccomend to any of my friends to join under the current administration and for a good while after. I would tell them to study hard so that you aren't forced into service just so you can get school tuition assistance. I would tell them to limit big government in their lives so that way they could protect themselves from the renig that has become out nations creed. We as soldiers are tired of making the ultimate sacrifices and yet being abandoned by those we protect when it is time to settle up. I for one will not be re-enlisting when my contract is up simply because I don't see it getting any better for our men and women in uniform at all.
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SPC Dixon, I understand your frustration regarding the cuts and threat of further cuts, however, I feel like there is a fraudulent belief that the Executive Branch of our government is solely responsible.  The President does not pass laws.  That is the job of the Congress which is divided.  Both parties support cutting military benefits.  In fact, our military leaders have been calling for cuts to military pay and benefits since 2006 under DefSec Gates.  The Joint Chiefs have also been pushing to cut "personnel costs" for years.  In my opinion, it is a fantasy to believe that the pace of cuts will improve under another administration.  This is what our senior leaders and the majority of our nation want right now.  Without the perceived threat of another major war or enemy, the American people as a whole won't support the large military budgets of the past decade.
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MSgt John McGowan
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2LT James. I entered the service in 1956 and was promised free health care for life. I had just made the cut. A Col. Bud Day sued the government and lost about the free health care. I am going on memory alone. 2LT, I believe this President makes laws, and Congress just goes along with it. Paul Rynn just said he would sue any president that broke the law.
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Personally, this continued attack from our 'elected' officials against the military retirees and veterans in general is a disgrace to America. 

 

We (Military) in the begining stages of our careers sometimes are at poverty level standards, as we move up the ranks and stay in - then we start to be able to provide for our families at a comfortable level of existence. 

 

For the Guard and Reserves, medical care is not totally covered for our families - so we have out of pocket expenses that go up every year. Once you retire you loose life insurance (unless you want to pay high prices), you loose dental coverage and the cost of medical just goes up. 

 

Loosing COLA's just adds more insult to injury (so to speak).  Us retiree's who have given the best years of our lives to help defend and protect the freedoms that the majority of Americans take for granted - do not get exorbitant retirement incomes.  We get a small fraction of our previous income and come out into a job market that like the present is not the greatest unless you have advanced degrees and the right experience. 

 

It's bad enough out there for the regular working class to find jobs - let alone our military that might be in their late 40's or early 50's when they retire. 

 

These elected 'officials' would be hardpressed to live at our level of income as retiree's do - let alone the normal military income. 

 

If they would take the exact same cuts to their pay and benefits (and retirements) that we military personnel get handed all the time - it woulld be a different story.  

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