Posted on Mar 25, 2021
Can your Command volunteer a Service Member to have a minor medical test done?
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That's a new one on me. I would say no. And get ready to contact the IG
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How invasive is the test?
There is never a medical reason for a Soldier to to be treated with a pressure bandage, tourniquet or infused with 500-1000ml of saline during first aid and CLS training, but that still happens in training every week of the year.
i.e. you need to provide more information for a better answer.
There is never a medical reason for a Soldier to to be treated with a pressure bandage, tourniquet or infused with 500-1000ml of saline during first aid and CLS training, but that still happens in training every week of the year.
i.e. you need to provide more information for a better answer.
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There is no part of this training event that will be beneficial to the Soldier. It's for another unit's benefit. He's basically the guinea pig for the training event. Just curious, as I have never encountered being forced to undergo a medical test for the training benefit of another unit, with regards to myself or any of my Soldiers.
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SGM (Join to see) - I believe from what I have heard that in CLS, they do not have students do an IV anymore.
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If it is a blood draw, I don't see an issue. Of course there is no training value for the Soldier giving blood, just like there is no training value for the Soldier getting a fake compression dressing, and no training value for an 18D student getting an NG tube sunk to drain 50ml of stomach contents. The training value is for those performing the procedure.
That said, must be a lot of training if they need to go outside their own office to get enough blood draws for the training.
That said, must be a lot of training if they need to go outside their own office to get enough blood draws for the training.
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Do you mean something like a COVID 19 test? Something more invasive?
If you need to be tested for a pathogen, such as COVID 19, or drug use, then I can see an order to that effect being legal.
Possibly you're being "voluntold".
If you need to be tested for a pathogen, such as COVID 19, or drug use, then I can see an order to that effect being legal.
Possibly you're being "voluntold".
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SGT (Join to see) - I don't know. That doesn't sound like a horrible thing if they're just training the medical personnel how to draw labs and run some tests. I want our medical personnel to be fully trained and do it all the right way. The only way it happens is experience. And to find out those things - I don't see an issue.
I feel like someone can say they don't want to volunteer to be a 'lab rat' though. Did you go ask JAG about it? Or your friend ask JAG?
Honestly if I'm unsure of some legality of something I'm gonna go to the lawyers.
I feel like someone can say they don't want to volunteer to be a 'lab rat' though. Did you go ask JAG about it? Or your friend ask JAG?
Honestly if I'm unsure of some legality of something I'm gonna go to the lawyers.
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SFC (Join to see) It's not that serious. My Soldier was voluntold (not by me, but my LT), but he doesn't mind going to it. I had just never encountered this situation before and was looking for insight into it.
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SGT (Join to see) - When it comes to wondering if something is legal, best bet is ask JAG.
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SSG Bill McCoy
SFC (Join to see) - When I went through medical training (Navy Hospital School), we practiced IV's and blood draws on each other ... NEVER on other service personnel. When we learned how to do NG tubes, or intubation, it was on actual patients, but UNDER CLOSE MEDICAL SUPERVISION. Today, they have mechanical models for most of that.
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