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From: Army Times
Nearly 8,000 sergeants will be removed from the staff sergeant selection list unless they comply with a new rule that links E-6 promotion eligibility to the completion of the Structured Self Development-2 course.
SSD-2 replaced the common core phase of the Advanced Leader Course on Oct. 1.
The ALC common core course and SSD-2 ran simultaneously from June 1 through Sept. 30, and soldiers who completed the common core of ALC before Oct. 1 have met the promotion requirement.
However, sergeants only will receive promotion points in the military education section of the Promotion Point Worksheet when both the ALC common core or SSD-2 and the ALC technical resident phase are completed.
The 80-hour online SSD-2 not only is a requirement for E-6 promotion consideration, but is a prerequisite for attendance at the Advanced Leader Course, a resident training regimen that focuses on technical and specialty-specific topics appropriate for leaders in squads and platoons.
The new promotion requirement will apply to selection boards that meet in January to recommend sergeants of the Regular Army and the Army Reserve component of the Active Guard and Reserve for integration onto the E-6 lists that will apply to staff sergeant promotions in February and beyond.
During the transition to the new system, promotable sergeants — those soldiers who already have been integrated onto the E-6 list — must have credit for the common core phase of the Advanced Leader Course, or Structured Self-Development-2, no later than Jan. 8 to retain their promotable status.
Failure to comply with the new requirement by that date will result in automatic removal from the staff sergeant list.
About 21,000 sergeants are in promotable status as of late December, according to information provided by the evaluation, promotions and selection division of the Human Resources Command.
Included in the total are 7,740 sergeants, or 37 percent of the soldiers on the E-6 list, who do not have credit for SSD-2, and who will be removed from the list Jan. 9 unless they complete the distance learning requirement by Jan. 8.
Soldiers who are removed from the list only can regain promotion eligibility by completing SSD-2, and being re-boarded and recommended for promotion by their chain of command.
The Structured Self Development system is a centrally managed set of common-core leadership and soldiering content that must be completed before attending the resident Warrior Leader Course, Advanced Leader Course, Senior Leader Course and Sergeants Major Course. The online courses each are 80 hours, and must be completed within two years.
The timeline for the deliberate, continuous, sequential and progressive process is:
• Upon completion of initial entry training, soldiers automatically will be enrolled in SSD-1, which is a prerequisite to attend the Warrior Leader Course. The WLC is limited to specialists and corporals. Privates first-class and below are not eligible to attend the WLC.
• Soldiers automatically are enrolled in SSD-2 upon completing WLC and promotion to sergeant. Completion of SSD-2 is a prerequisite to attend the Advanced Leader Course.
• Soldiers automatically are enrolled in SSD-3 upon completing ALC and promotion to staff sergeant.SSD-3 completion is a prerequisite to attend the Senior Leader Course.
• Soldiers automatically are enrolled in SSD-4 upon completion of SLC and promotion to sergeant first class.SSD-4 completion is a prerequisite to attend the Sergeants Major Course.
A new course, tentatively called the Master Leader Course, is under development and could be piloted in late fiscal 2015.The course would prepare soldiers for duty as master sergeants.
• Soldiers automatically are enrolled in SSD-5 upon promotion to sergeant major. SSD-5 completion is a prerequisite for assignment to nominative E-9 positions and joint duties.
The Structured Self Development courses are formally linked to promotions as follows:
SSD-1: required to be recommended for promotion to sergeant.
SSD-2: required to be recommended for promotion to staff sergeant.
SSD-3: required to be considered for promotion to sergeant first class.
SSD-4: required to be considered for selection to master sergeant.
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/enlisted/2014/12/23/7740-sergeants-could-be-cut-from-promotion-list-ssd2-promotion-requirement/20804823/
Nearly 8,000 sergeants will be removed from the staff sergeant selection list unless they comply with a new rule that links E-6 promotion eligibility to the completion of the Structured Self Development-2 course.
SSD-2 replaced the common core phase of the Advanced Leader Course on Oct. 1.
The ALC common core course and SSD-2 ran simultaneously from June 1 through Sept. 30, and soldiers who completed the common core of ALC before Oct. 1 have met the promotion requirement.
However, sergeants only will receive promotion points in the military education section of the Promotion Point Worksheet when both the ALC common core or SSD-2 and the ALC technical resident phase are completed.
The 80-hour online SSD-2 not only is a requirement for E-6 promotion consideration, but is a prerequisite for attendance at the Advanced Leader Course, a resident training regimen that focuses on technical and specialty-specific topics appropriate for leaders in squads and platoons.
The new promotion requirement will apply to selection boards that meet in January to recommend sergeants of the Regular Army and the Army Reserve component of the Active Guard and Reserve for integration onto the E-6 lists that will apply to staff sergeant promotions in February and beyond.
During the transition to the new system, promotable sergeants — those soldiers who already have been integrated onto the E-6 list — must have credit for the common core phase of the Advanced Leader Course, or Structured Self-Development-2, no later than Jan. 8 to retain their promotable status.
Failure to comply with the new requirement by that date will result in automatic removal from the staff sergeant list.
About 21,000 sergeants are in promotable status as of late December, according to information provided by the evaluation, promotions and selection division of the Human Resources Command.
Included in the total are 7,740 sergeants, or 37 percent of the soldiers on the E-6 list, who do not have credit for SSD-2, and who will be removed from the list Jan. 9 unless they complete the distance learning requirement by Jan. 8.
Soldiers who are removed from the list only can regain promotion eligibility by completing SSD-2, and being re-boarded and recommended for promotion by their chain of command.
The Structured Self Development system is a centrally managed set of common-core leadership and soldiering content that must be completed before attending the resident Warrior Leader Course, Advanced Leader Course, Senior Leader Course and Sergeants Major Course. The online courses each are 80 hours, and must be completed within two years.
The timeline for the deliberate, continuous, sequential and progressive process is:
• Upon completion of initial entry training, soldiers automatically will be enrolled in SSD-1, which is a prerequisite to attend the Warrior Leader Course. The WLC is limited to specialists and corporals. Privates first-class and below are not eligible to attend the WLC.
• Soldiers automatically are enrolled in SSD-2 upon completing WLC and promotion to sergeant. Completion of SSD-2 is a prerequisite to attend the Advanced Leader Course.
• Soldiers automatically are enrolled in SSD-3 upon completing ALC and promotion to staff sergeant.SSD-3 completion is a prerequisite to attend the Senior Leader Course.
• Soldiers automatically are enrolled in SSD-4 upon completion of SLC and promotion to sergeant first class.SSD-4 completion is a prerequisite to attend the Sergeants Major Course.
A new course, tentatively called the Master Leader Course, is under development and could be piloted in late fiscal 2015.The course would prepare soldiers for duty as master sergeants.
• Soldiers automatically are enrolled in SSD-5 upon promotion to sergeant major. SSD-5 completion is a prerequisite for assignment to nominative E-9 positions and joint duties.
The Structured Self Development courses are formally linked to promotions as follows:
SSD-1: required to be recommended for promotion to sergeant.
SSD-2: required to be recommended for promotion to staff sergeant.
SSD-3: required to be considered for promotion to sergeant first class.
SSD-4: required to be considered for selection to master sergeant.
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/enlisted/2014/12/23/7740-sergeants-could-be-cut-from-promotion-list-ssd2-promotion-requirement/20804823/
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I completed this requirement immediately after promoted to E-5. I have little sympathy for E-5s who have put it off until the last possible moment. It's an online course, so as long as you have internet it's not that difficult to complete.
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SPC Nancy Greene
It is ALWAYS based upon the NEEDS of the Army! The cut-off score for my MOS stayed at 998 out or 1000 points the entire time I was on Active Duty! It ‘dropped’ once as I was in process of my requested Medical Discharge. I ‘missed’ promotion by 10 points & I had a Permanent P-3 Profile from an injury in Basic. LTJG (Join to see)
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SPC Nancy Greene
You might want to prepare by completing Leadership ‘Correspondence Courses’. Also, if you enroll in one college course & complete the course; you will receive 10 points for improving Civilian Education & 1 point for each semester hour of credit you obtain. An easy way to accrue 13 Promotion Points. I used to encourage Enlisted Soldiers to choose this option as a means of acquiring points in Civilian Education. If you have further questions, please feel free to contact me on RP. NancyLTJG (Join to see)
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SPC Nancy Greene
Roger That MSG Tom Earley! My MIS was ‘frozen’ for over three years! MSG Tom Earley
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I have less than no sympathy. The SSD has been mandated since 01OCT, and they've known about it since at least then. It's three months later. They knew, they didn't do it.
One third of E-5's failed to take it. That means that only about 15,000 people are READY to be promoted to E-6 - and I don't mean qualified - I mean ready to take charge of their own careers and do what is required to be promoted. If they aren't ready, willing, and able to do that for themselves, what will they do for a junior soldier?
Answer: Less. If they don't care about their career, they won't care about anyone else's.
Nope. Not one inch of sympathy.
One third of E-5's failed to take it. That means that only about 15,000 people are READY to be promoted to E-6 - and I don't mean qualified - I mean ready to take charge of their own careers and do what is required to be promoted. If they aren't ready, willing, and able to do that for themselves, what will they do for a junior soldier?
Answer: Less. If they don't care about their career, they won't care about anyone else's.
Nope. Not one inch of sympathy.
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I agree with you too. If you have not done it with all the Warnings (messages) coming every other month, then you should not be an NCO. The majority of the NCO's today want everything easy and free. Every day I strive to teach my NCO's something new so that they can be knowledgable leaders for our future. Initiative is one of the best qualities you should have if you want to lead.
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SPC Nancy Greene
OUTSTANDING SFC Luis Marty! That is Good Leadership IMHO! When will You be Recommended for E8?SFC (Join to see)
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These are NCOs already, presumably in leadership roles and understand responsibility.
Any NCO up for promotion should be responsible enough to maintain his eligibility
I share SMsgt Thomas feeling that this will be sad, but maybe for different reasons
I saddened that the military had to draw this line on NCOs for failing to meet a requirement
Any NCO up for promotion should be responsible enough to maintain his eligibility
I share SMsgt Thomas feeling that this will be sad, but maybe for different reasons
I saddened that the military had to draw this line on NCOs for failing to meet a requirement
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1SG Michael Blount
How many times must I tell people the Army isn't handing out promotions anymore? I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I feel like a parrot repeating this message over and over again to people too lazy to manage their own careers. This is like talking to kids who don't listen until you drop the hammer.
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SPC Nancy Greene
It ‘irritates’ Me! I did everything’ possible to obtain promotion points. I needed Medals & My Command ( AG) didn’t process Medals for My Unit. Certificates of Achievement only counted for 5 points, with a max-out at 10 points! 6 Certificates of Achievement only awarded me 10 points! I completed every Military Correspondence Course I could manage while Assigned to 2nd Armored Division (FWD) in Garlstedt Germany during the Cold War. The only Medal I received was an AAM from an Infantry LTC. I was a SP4(P) for two of my three years on Active Duty. The ‘Freeze’ on cut-off scores for AG Corps was a B****! Reclassified soldiers filled all the AG ADMIN slots. That was one of the three reasons I requested a Medical Discharge.
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SPC Nancy Greene
Definitely Agree with You SGT Charles DURHAM! IMHO, You seem to have what it takes to be SSG! Good Luck!SGT (Join to see)
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I've already started on it and probably be done before news year's....so this guy will be ready!!!!
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Was given SSD2 September 20th and had it done on Sept 21st.... I don't see what the problem is to get this thing completed...
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It would take me that long to do, but here is my excuse. Although I'm on leave, I have a 18 month little boy with #2 on the way. My days are shot for now until I come off leave....ha ha ha
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The ARMY today is about staying one step ahead. The SSD's have been out for a bit now. Although SSD-2 has not been out as long it was known that it replaced "Common Core."
It is hard to feel bad for anyone being removed from the list for something that does not take long if you are motivated to complete it. I personally have done one's that were not required of me so that I could learn the new methods being utilized and know what my Soldiers have to go through.
The signs were out there and that these things must be completed. It was recognized that not enough Leaders were motivated to complete it on their own and therefore it became mandatory. Now everyone wants to complain and have extra time.
As a Platoon Sergeant I have stressed the importance of getting registered and completing SSD's, College, Technical Certifications, and Correspondence Courses. Almost no one listens. It is for this reason I have no sympathy.
With that said I wish everyone the best of luck. I believe it is nearly impossible to get it accomplished if you are not already registered. Like I always mention. "you cannot help someone who does not wish to help themselves."
It is hard to feel bad for anyone being removed from the list for something that does not take long if you are motivated to complete it. I personally have done one's that were not required of me so that I could learn the new methods being utilized and know what my Soldiers have to go through.
The signs were out there and that these things must be completed. It was recognized that not enough Leaders were motivated to complete it on their own and therefore it became mandatory. Now everyone wants to complain and have extra time.
As a Platoon Sergeant I have stressed the importance of getting registered and completing SSD's, College, Technical Certifications, and Correspondence Courses. Almost no one listens. It is for this reason I have no sympathy.
With that said I wish everyone the best of luck. I believe it is nearly impossible to get it accomplished if you are not already registered. Like I always mention. "you cannot help someone who does not wish to help themselves."
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There have been numerous ALARACT and MILPER Messages out over the past 18 months talking how completion of SSD will be tied to promotion. There also have been numerous threads on RallyPoint discussing this topic. For those that are not in compliance and may end up removed from the promotion standing list, I do not have very much sympathy for you. There has been ample time to ensure that you get into compliance. If you wait until the last minute to do something, you only have a minute to do it.
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COL Vincent Stoneking
1SG Steven Stankovich I regret that I have only one like to give for this post....
I was preaching this when I took command. The Army was preaching it during my first year in command (Probably before too....). The Army put it in no-BS writing my second year of command. I've been out of command for almost a year.
My only conclusion is that 1) the person was deaf, 2) decided the Army would change its mind at the last minute, or 3) that they were a special little snowflake.
I hate to sound all harsh on Christmas morning, but give me a break.... You've got an Army that needs to shrink and it tells you that something is a requirement to STAY, let alone be competitive.... I have the exact same amount of sympathy for "MAJ Passed Over" who didn't complete ILE.
I was preaching this when I took command. The Army was preaching it during my first year in command (Probably before too....). The Army put it in no-BS writing my second year of command. I've been out of command for almost a year.
My only conclusion is that 1) the person was deaf, 2) decided the Army would change its mind at the last minute, or 3) that they were a special little snowflake.
I hate to sound all harsh on Christmas morning, but give me a break.... You've got an Army that needs to shrink and it tells you that something is a requirement to STAY, let alone be competitive.... I have the exact same amount of sympathy for "MAJ Passed Over" who didn't complete ILE.
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1SG Steven Stankovich
True story sir. I am especially fond of your #3...a special little snowflake... Merry Christmas to you and yours COL Vincent Stoneking!!!
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1LT(P) Josh Coats
I believe that many of the SPC's that do not complete the requirements are a direct reflection on their Platoon and Company leaders. I have witnessed a 72 Soldier platoon with one computer that was shared with the PS. When they had a requirement to complete online education, it would be printed off. It is the Soldier's responsibility to track the requirements for promotion, but leaders need to lead them and be held accountable for failure in their ranks.
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1SG Steven Stankovich
Sir, you bring up a good point. Leaders should be tracking their folks. Leaders should be on top of their folks for them to complete their requirements. However, as we both know, at the end of the day this is an individual responsibility. I as a Leader can provide all the tools necessary for a Soldier to be successful, except for completing their task for them.
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It sucks, but I don't really have a lot of sympathy for them. DL PME is too easy not to just knock out as soon as you are eligible.
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This is not a new rule, and SMs have had access to the SSD programs for at least 3 years. This is part of professional developement, and meeting standards.
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This Military Leadership Course Completion was a requirement in 1984-1987! It was a requirement before a SGT/E5 was EVEN recommended to appear before the Promotion Board!
It’s 2020, and the Army is Finally making this Military Education a Mandatory Requirement?!
It’s 2020, and the Army is Finally making this Military Education a Mandatory Requirement?!
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SPC Nancy Greene
So, why are these SGT’s whining & asking about an E6 list? If they are already SGT’s shouldn’t they know their promotion system? Things certainly have changed?! Good Morning (?) PVT Landrew Usoali Sappa!Landrew Usoalii S.
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Landrew Usoalii S.
SPC Nancy Greene Good morning...lol...NCO in this new Army and era are lazy to say the least it saddens me. This is what happens when DOD/SMA says be nice...hehe
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SPC Nancy Greene
Definitely Agree! ‘Too soft’ to be ARMY! IMHO Will send you a ‘connect’ request as we seem to have similar ‘views’ ! Landrew Usoalii S.
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I wished the Army had pushed more education during my time. Education gives you a foundation with the latest practice.
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