Posted on Feb 11, 2022
SPC 11 C Indirect Fire A Infantryman
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We just got this new corporal who re-classed to mortars and he’s super hooah and after a disagreement and how to perform large deflections he told me to drop now I know he is a corporal but I’ve been a mortar man longer and I am the gun 2 gunner and the fact is he was wrong after all he just became a mortar man 11c and for that reason I told him to eat a bag of dicks just want everyone’s opinion
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You told an NCO to go eat a bag of dicks and you wanna know if you were wrong? I don't care if you've been doing the job longer and know more. You were more wrong than a hooker in church trying to pass a $3.00 bill in the collection plate. Personally, you should have been recommended for UCMJ. Disrespect to an NCO, Article 91. And yes he can drop your ass for corrective training. Remember, he's the NCO and you are not. Next time this happens, take it to your Squad Leader instead of planting your head in your ass.
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2LT Ronald Reimer
2LT Ronald Reimer
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SFC Domingo M. - well, that was 1970…there was a shortage of, well…everything.
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SFC Domingo M.
SFC Domingo M.
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2LT Ronald Reimer - What did it for me was hard work and dedication, demonstrated leadership abilities which others didn't. I wasn't afraid to face a challenge.
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2LT Ronald Reimer
2LT Ronald Reimer
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SFC Domingo M. - I’m sure that you were/did. Those who are successful, (like yourself), frequently are. I was trying to point out that those were different times. I wonder if anyone in the past 10 years has gone from E-1 or E-2 to E-5 in 1 year of service. Not in my original MOS, that’s for sure. The promotion points required for advancement were frozen at 998 for 5 years.
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SFC Domingo M.
SFC Domingo M.
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2LT Ronald Reimer - I respect your take on this, but just for the sake of it, I just checked and the cut-off score is 450, and I couldn't find any time frame when it was frozen at 998. At least not for 11B MOS.
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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You were both wrong, but you do what your rank can handle. He was wrong to try to flex because he was insecure about being wrong. You were wrong in your response. He's trying to establish himself as the recognized leader in a section that's new to him. You could have changed that entire encounter by pulling him aside and showing him the TM or whatever reference in a way that let's him save face in front of his Joe's.
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SFC Howard Holmes
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SFC Boyd, just reading that he told a Cpl. to "Eat a Bag of Dicks" gives me a funny feeling that the 'disagreement' wasn't as sweet and clean as he's making it out to be. If it was, there probably was a finishing touch to his comment to the Cpl like maybe, "dumb ass", "moron" or something else of that nature. I just have that feeling, that there's a little envy, or Spec Gomez wanted to knock the Cpl down a couple notches while lifting himself up a couple of notches. Maybe even Gomez wanted to test the Cpl., and didn't expect the Alpha Charlie, or the Smoking that he earned.
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CSM Frank Supinski
CSM Frank Supinski
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Having been a young enlisted man and a young NCO I can remember these days as some of the most challenging of my career. The transformation to the NCO ranks is one that in my way of thinking requires a whole lot of training, mentorship, and learning by doing and yes even the mistakes one makes by doing the job. If their is a perceived lack of experience on your new TL than my recommendation is elevated this to your Platoon SGT and have a sit down with both him and TL together. I know it is difficult to check Ego's at the door but an honest dialog needs to happen between you both on this situation. Respect is a two way street as I have often learned. In order to get it you have to give it. As someone once taught me "people who look down upon other people don't end up being looked up to."
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SSG Richard Bladl
SSG Richard Bladl
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1stSgt Michael Shafer - Sorry to disagree, your response shows you to be a hard nosed leader that needs some leadership training. You needed to pull both to the side and have a discussion about the problem and try to fix it, if that didn't work you could give less punishment than an Article 15. Sorry top, you don't have my support.
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Sgt Peter McLaughlin
Sgt Peter McLaughlin
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99 percent of getting someone to do something for you is the approach you take. once you mess that up, it's a lot harder to get them to respect you after that. Respect works both ways! The biggest impact came from a First Sargeant who told our unit : " You don't have to like someone, but you will respect the rank". There is a chain of command for a reason. An old saying that goes a long way and will save you many difficulties: Think before you act or speak.
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
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Under Art 92, UCMJ, it is a violation if the SPC does not obey the order.
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SGT Indirect Fire Infantryman (Mortarman)
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That is complete bullshit.. he has the right to violate that order if the order can and will put him or anyone else life in Jeopardy
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SFC Ralph E Kelley
SFC Ralph E Kelley
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SGT (Join to see) - How do you know if the Corporal telling him to drop to do push-ups and him responding, "eat a bag of dicks" would harm other soldiers?
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1SG(P) Dean Mcbride (MPER) (SPHR)
1SG(P) Dean Mcbride (MPER) (SPHR)
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SGT (Join to see) - He may have a right to violate an unlawful order. But, this does not give him the right to verbalize obscenities... He demonstrated an extreme lack of class in his behavior.
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