Posted on Jan 24, 2023
How likely is my spouse to be charged with adultery and fraternization? What type of punishment should be expected?
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While I was deployed, I found out my husband was unfaithful and having extramarital affair with a Pfc from another unit. Him being a SGT. This was not the first time he was unfaithful to me prior adultery affairs. I gathered evidence, such as confessions from previous mistresses and pictures of him being unfaithful, such as kissing, hugging text
Messages showing him being affectionate, making comments like saying I love you to them and he’s so proud to have them as there are lover etc.
Now with this Pfc , I confronted her, and I let her know my husband was married to me, and that it would be smart. If she let us figure out these issues, and to leave him alone. this Pfc was around my child. She showered in my bathroom. She stayed in my house. She slept on my bed. She had sex on my bed. She sent me pictures of them with him on top of her, kissing her on the head and I was able to get pictures from her of them holding hands with his tattoos showing. He has abandoned me in order to be with this girl, and she claimed I was harassing her when I was asking her and begging her to leave my husband alone and let us figure things out on our own upon returning from my deployment. He and she continues the affair upon my return from deployment, and she lied to my commander about not seeing him yet she was caught with him the very same day she lied to my commander and claimed harassment.
The affair is continuing, but I don’t have any new evidence. My husband has been flagged for four months now and today he claims to have a second reading with his battalion commander.
During this whole investigation, I provided sworn statements with dates, timelines, pictures, telephonic confessions from the mistress ( she did not know she was being recorded) but it is legal in my state to record a conversation. How likely is my husband to be punished and what are the punishments looking like this has affected my mental health upon returning from deployment, knowing that I lost my entire family in my home due to the selfish actions of my husband and his private first class who knew what they were doing and had no remorse for the family I am now mourning. Not only is it affecting myself, but it is affecting our child as well..
Messages showing him being affectionate, making comments like saying I love you to them and he’s so proud to have them as there are lover etc.
Now with this Pfc , I confronted her, and I let her know my husband was married to me, and that it would be smart. If she let us figure out these issues, and to leave him alone. this Pfc was around my child. She showered in my bathroom. She stayed in my house. She slept on my bed. She had sex on my bed. She sent me pictures of them with him on top of her, kissing her on the head and I was able to get pictures from her of them holding hands with his tattoos showing. He has abandoned me in order to be with this girl, and she claimed I was harassing her when I was asking her and begging her to leave my husband alone and let us figure things out on our own upon returning from my deployment. He and she continues the affair upon my return from deployment, and she lied to my commander about not seeing him yet she was caught with him the very same day she lied to my commander and claimed harassment.
The affair is continuing, but I don’t have any new evidence. My husband has been flagged for four months now and today he claims to have a second reading with his battalion commander.
During this whole investigation, I provided sworn statements with dates, timelines, pictures, telephonic confessions from the mistress ( she did not know she was being recorded) but it is legal in my state to record a conversation. How likely is my husband to be punished and what are the punishments looking like this has affected my mental health upon returning from deployment, knowing that I lost my entire family in my home due to the selfish actions of my husband and his private first class who knew what they were doing and had no remorse for the family I am now mourning. Not only is it affecting myself, but it is affecting our child as well..
Article 15
Adultery
Fraternization
UCMJ
Posted 3 y ago
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OMG.. I Don't Know What The Experience Is Of The Others In Here,
But While I Was Stationed In South Korea, We Had A Couple Of Guys Whom Seldom Left Base And Were So Faithful They Could Have Qualified As Saints... And BOTH Received "Dear John Letters" From Their Unfaithful Wife's, And One Was Pregnant ~~ Just NOT By Him...LMAO. ...SO Quite Frankly, Care To Guess Which One Of These 2 I'd Be Questioning? ~~ And If I Were He, I'd Be Asking Questions Of Her Family & Friends, SOMEONE Knows What's Been Going On, Even If HE Didn't!
But While I Was Stationed In South Korea, We Had A Couple Of Guys Whom Seldom Left Base And Were So Faithful They Could Have Qualified As Saints... And BOTH Received "Dear John Letters" From Their Unfaithful Wife's, And One Was Pregnant ~~ Just NOT By Him...LMAO. ...SO Quite Frankly, Care To Guess Which One Of These 2 I'd Be Questioning? ~~ And If I Were He, I'd Be Asking Questions Of Her Family & Friends, SOMEONE Knows What's Been Going On, Even If HE Didn't!
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SGT (Join to see) All the advice you need was already provided by GySgt Kenneth Pepper! By your statement that you "lost your entire family" it can be assumed there are children involved. Trying to get the maximum punishment possible for him could reflect on his ability to provide adequate child support. You would be hurting him but also depriving your children on economic benefits. After reading everything you wrote, one comment you made became very obvious. This has "effected your mental health" You need help from a mental health specialist!
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Toss him in the shitcan. Then relate this story to Taylor Swift. She can turn it into another hit song and probably make you wealthy.
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I cheated on my first wife with the woman who became my second wife. I notified my command of my situation and that divorce proceeding once we return from our patrol (onboard a USCG Cutter). More importantly I called the Work-Life Staff before my wife did; their policy -once one spouse contact them they can’t talk about it nor can they even take a report.
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Since the PFC is from another unit, I don't believe this would fall under fraternization. There is, generally speaking, no prohibition between NCOs and non-NCOs who are not in the same chain of command from having intimate relationships. But fraternization is also subjective. In some cases if the relationship somehow creates an unduly familiar relationship that can create some kind of professionally inappropriate situation it could be considered fraternization. In this case this doesn't seem to be the case. But the adultery charge can definitely be pursued.
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You are truly one vindictive person. You should be ashamed of yourself, because #1 you were obviously not the model wife that made monogamy a priority to him. #2, why don't you just divorce him if you are not willing to work out your problems? I assume you got married after both of you were actively in the military. The beginning was a "friend with benefits" arrangement. Most likely something like getting married would get you out of the barracks, give you separate rations and a housing allowance. OK, it didn't work out, so cash out the relationship and go your separate was peacefully.
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Get over it. Things happen when one parent is deployed. The other option is to deep six your marriage over something so trivial as being unfaithful while you were deployed. Put on your big girl panties and accept the fact that things like this can happen. If you don't really love him anyway, kick him to the curb.
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If he is getting his second reading he is getting UCMJ action. An included offence will be fraternization (probably but not for sure) He will get busted at least 2 ranks and if he has enough time in service he will be kicked out. I have seen this happen a few times before. It all depends on how his current command feels about him. If he was a super soldier before hand he could get off light. If however they felt he was a marginal NCO in the 1st place he will be toast . Please see the following article https://militarylawcenter.com/military-law-areas-of-practice/military-adultery-defense-attorney/
Since the PFC from another unit was involved, and she knew he is married, she will be toast as well. His unit will be required to notify her unit as she is material to the proceedings
Since the PFC from another unit was involved, and she knew he is married, she will be toast as well. His unit will be required to notify her unit as she is material to the proceedings
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SFC Jerry McLellen
I should expect such a response from a "senior NCO" these days. The "hang 'em" mentality of these senior NCO's is part of the reason the military cannot retain troops. Maybe these NCO's should be judged for their attitudes and actions. Other than that, leave the marital problems to be worked out by the two people involved.
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You know adultery, divorce is a loss and I am sorry for your loss. First seek counseling, First JAG and your Commander you are his/her troop. Husband and PFC Commander should. Second get Therapy for mental abuse and therapy for your child (sounds like there will be long term effects). Third go to Chaplin for spiritual guidance as well. I would No longer confront the PFC (let her hang herself) it also takes two to tangle. It is easy for others to say move on, but no one knows your heart like you. Please no more confronting her or him for that matter. Doesn't seem like he wants to work it out, if he did it would have ended. Evidently they don't care about their careers that are probably over. Dishonored discharge will leave both without any benefits. Also remember if he is discharged then he becomes your dependent and your problem (you may want to seek a divorce sooner than later) because he could make problems for you on down the line as your dependent. My situation was similar, it took a long time many years to get past the financial and mental anguish. However her I am 35 years later healed to the point that he and I are friends but it didn't happen over night. Your issue is a matter of the heart, but right now to save you trouble in a long run act with your brain. Don't act with your heart right now, especially if you want the best outcome your you and your child. Best regards
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How likely is my spouse to be charged with adultery and fraternization? What type of punishment should be expected?
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SFC Jerry McLellen
If you take the easy way out for yourself and have your spouse tried in the UCMJ system, you will not only lose your marriage, but your failures as a wife will also be laid out for everyone to see. Keep it between yourself, your spouse and a civilian marriage counselor. If you involve the military, nothing good will come out of it.
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