After the first day of Ranger School, only 3 women failed the PT test, 16 remain. Great job! Do the naysayers still doubt them?

Congratulations to the women who pass the PT Test, but I'm "ole school" don't believe we have to use our women in a combat role. The U.S isn't like other countries using women and children to help fight a war, we still have more than enough males to take on combat missions.

I for one do not doubt them. Some females in the military are bad ass

CSM (Join to see)

As many have pointed out already, there is a lot more to go before anybody should be congratulated.

If any females can pass the standards of the course without any degradation of those standards or any advantages given to them that are not available to males, then I say "congratulations and more power to them". I would be proud to have them join the ranks of those who earned and wear the Ranger Tab.

After the initial week of qualification/training, a large number of Ranger students are dropped due to injuries, as well as physical exhaustion. Will be interesting to see how many complete the course and earn the Tab.

I am adamantly opposed to reducing standards for females or reducing standards for everyone so females can meet them.

By naysayers, I'm gathering that you are trying to make a point against the people who disagree with GI and ranger school. So, here's my personal response.

I honestly know that some (not all) of the females who are going through right now were treated favorably in order to be better prepared for Ranger School. And "favorably" is a very conservative way of putting it. For example: multiple opportunities to pass RTAC; training in-between RTAC cycles to get better prepared to complete RTAC; training by an RI (not from RTB or RTAC) to get better prepared for Ranger School; PT plans focused on RAP week events and weapons training. All of this took place on the the governments dime at Ft. Banning and they did not have duty obligations back at their units. I'm sure all Ranger students would love to be put on active duty orders (if guard or reserve) or separated from their daily duties to strictly prepare for Ranger school. At the end of the day, they needed this preparation in order to have a good shot at passing rap week in ranger school.
Saying that... if they went straight to Ranger School (like the vast majority Ranger Students do) and did not get trained in preparation to go, how would they fair? I personally know that the several needed time to recover and get the extra training to potential pass RTAC. Not all, but several. (it was a significant number when your talking about 19 total)

I have seen the GI from the very beginning until now. My personal opinion, based on what I have seen first hand, is that all females 'collectively' will not be able to walk on to Ranger school and be successful. They need extensive training, physically and tactically (at the one on one level) in order to have a slim chance of being successful. And by training I mean separation from duty to do nothing but train and improve physical fitness. My reasoning behind this: the females who came to attempt ranger school are the most elite, physically fit, and top .17% of all females in the Army (130 out of 74000). So if they need all of this training, how will the other 99.83% of females fair?
If the 16 make it, how does that reflect all females? Over 130(approximately) attempted, and 16 are left (12%). .02% of ALL females that were allowed to attempt still have chance. If these were males, this would be deemed an epic failure. Do the math on the money the government spent on this, and tell me this is worth the tax payers dime. It's boarder line criminal. Hundreds of thousands of dollars, literally, from the pay, tdy, salary of the personal instructor, time away from their unit (other people doing double duty), salaries for O/As for several months, and the actual cost of sending a soldier to ranger school.

Not trying to be a naysayer, but weren't all the women required to go through extensive pre-training (not to mention that they all were hand selected even before this all started?) to be in the select group and we still lost 15% the first day?

CSM (Join to see), I hope everyone continues to do well. It's a long way to the finish.

To all that remain, good luck.

There are many more days into selection. We'll see then.

Was it Male or Female standards, or was it full on 5 mile run within 40 minutes, with sit ups, push ups and chin ups?

I am totally fine with women being rangers, but was the standards lowered to make it nothing more than glorified political ass kissing or was it legit PT to see if women can make the rest of 8 weeks?

As long as the PT standards are the same for the Men and Women, I'm ALL for it.
Don't give the female standards. I can still pass the female standards and I'm considered 100% disabled.

Good luck to All the Men and Women going thru the course