Posted on Feb 12, 2022
What advice would you give to help someone further their career if they are in an MOS they do not like?
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Hello, so I feel like I'm stuck in a rut. I am a 92Y SGT(P) with 8years of service Active. And I am not a fan of this MOS, and recently, I have retested for the ASVAB again and scored a 119 to become a 35N(Signals Intelligence Analyst) as I always wanted to become part of the INSCOM world. But because the in and outcalls are N/N(92Y) and N/N(35N), and because I was told when I finish ALC and pick up SSG that reclassing would be almost impossible, this plan does not look very affordable to me. I am writing this message because I am asking anyone if they can give me any suggestion on what other option or give me any contact information of someone who can help.
Posted 4 y ago
Responses: 17
The unit Career Counselor is your best resource. That is the only way to find out what options are available. There might be other MOS that would also interest you, other than 35N if it isn’t available.
You would probably have to drop your P status to reclassify, but it might be worth it to switch to something you really want to do.
You would probably have to drop your P status to reclassify, but it might be worth it to switch to something you really want to do.
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Let’s try something different from quibbling over your profile, which isn’t helpful anyway. I say, grow where you’re planted. Be the very best supply person you can be. A great supply person can make their senior leadership look very good and really help the Soldiers by having the equipment and supplies needed for the mission. Take advantage of training and education in logistics. Learn about supply chain management Get your bachelors degree. Do all the leadership training and prepare to move up to Senior NCO.
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SGM Erik Marquez
Lt COL Coe... Best response yet, thank you.
SGT (Join to see) As your reclass options are about nil you have a few choices.
Stay a 92Y, and learn the craft better than anyone else...be "The Guy" BN XO's call, the one CDRS call and ask..... please teach my guy that.
Another option is stay a 92Y, but select a duty station and request a unit you can provide support to, that the unit will thank you for..
Career counselor, be successful at it and then convert to a 79S
SGT (Join to see) As your reclass options are about nil you have a few choices.
Stay a 92Y, and learn the craft better than anyone else...be "The Guy" BN XO's call, the one CDRS call and ask..... please teach my guy that.
Another option is stay a 92Y, but select a duty station and request a unit you can provide support to, that the unit will thank you for..
Career counselor, be successful at it and then convert to a 79S
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Soooo.....now you're misrepresenting yourself in a different way. SGT(P) is NOT a SSG yet. You haven't picked up SSG yet so why say you're a SSG. That's like me saying I'm a MSG now even though I haven't completed MLC yet. So, I guess my career advice for you is to STOP misrepresenting yourself with rank you don't have yet.
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One thing I noticed is that your post says you're a SGT(P) but your profile says SP6. Which WAS an E-6 back in the day before they got rid of all the SPC rank above E-4
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LTC Ray Buenteo
I have noticed quiet a few unverified service members in RP. I wonder how many are trolls and how many are just fishing for inside info? RP is a great source of passive intel.
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Sometimes one has to look at their life and decide if they are motivated enough to force a HARD STOP, get off the path they are on, and change directions entirely. You can become a brain surgeon if you want. There is no physical or legal hurdle preventing that. Just time (education), focus, money, ect.....
What I want to point out that on the surface and from the outside not all jobs or careers are any better than anything else you might desire. A great MOS with a crap chain of command and working environment is still a crap job. What one perceives as a lame MOS can still have a great working life set up.
So be aware of where you are trying to stick your foot in.
Of the high speed SF soldiers I worked with as an Intel Analyst most of them were counting their days. WO's with long careers in Intel were just plugging along day after day making product that gets put on a shelf and never read.
I turned my back on Finance of 20 years, joined the Army Reserves as an E4 in Intel (the best job of my life I might add), then only could get the officer path in Logistics (92A) such as yourself. Yes, I miss Intel, but honestly, to try and force that change again would detract from the inertia I've currently built up.
All in all, I now see folks around me who started their careers in the military when they were young (the time I started in Banking) and everyone has the same burnt out mentality.
What I'm saying is you'll probably not find that dream job. You need to find what you want in life as your place of contentment.
I've said nothing useful here. I highly recommend you make moves in life to keep your options open, and try and be aware when you have a good thing going and if you're willing to disrupt that.
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Depending on your age it isn't out of the realm of possibility to simply let your contract expire (HARD STOP) and then go to recruiting offices across all branches (from the position of being a civilian) and see what they have to offer. You might even have to take a reduced rank.
If a 38 y/o can leave a 20 year banking career, join with the intent to be a Logistical Officer, be denied and given a window to enlist as an Intel SPC, only to end up now as a Logistical CPT your objective is not impossible.
What I want to point out that on the surface and from the outside not all jobs or careers are any better than anything else you might desire. A great MOS with a crap chain of command and working environment is still a crap job. What one perceives as a lame MOS can still have a great working life set up.
So be aware of where you are trying to stick your foot in.
Of the high speed SF soldiers I worked with as an Intel Analyst most of them were counting their days. WO's with long careers in Intel were just plugging along day after day making product that gets put on a shelf and never read.
I turned my back on Finance of 20 years, joined the Army Reserves as an E4 in Intel (the best job of my life I might add), then only could get the officer path in Logistics (92A) such as yourself. Yes, I miss Intel, but honestly, to try and force that change again would detract from the inertia I've currently built up.
All in all, I now see folks around me who started their careers in the military when they were young (the time I started in Banking) and everyone has the same burnt out mentality.
What I'm saying is you'll probably not find that dream job. You need to find what you want in life as your place of contentment.
I've said nothing useful here. I highly recommend you make moves in life to keep your options open, and try and be aware when you have a good thing going and if you're willing to disrupt that.
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Depending on your age it isn't out of the realm of possibility to simply let your contract expire (HARD STOP) and then go to recruiting offices across all branches (from the position of being a civilian) and see what they have to offer. You might even have to take a reduced rank.
If a 38 y/o can leave a 20 year banking career, join with the intent to be a Logistical Officer, be denied and given a window to enlist as an Intel SPC, only to end up now as a Logistical CPT your objective is not impossible.
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SGT (Join to see)
CPT,
I wanna say thank you for everything you said, this was something I should really consider
I wanna say thank you for everything you said, this was something I should really consider
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SFC David Johnson
Before you consider making that hard stop, talk to the recruiters. They can give you options and let you know your chances as a prior service soldier. What I am saying is, don’t just get out without talking and reading first.
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CPT (Join to see)
SFC David Johnson - Yea, I should have mentioned........ exhaust all pathways first. There is not one single service member who knows every single regulation or situation regulations apply to. We have to depend on SME's and become our own SME's in regard to our situations.
If you don't like an answer you are being given from someone look up the regulation that supports their decision or opinion. Chances if you have a pathway around that the solution is going to be hovering around in the same overall regulation in another chapter or paragraph.
If you don't like an answer you are being given from someone look up the regulation that supports their decision or opinion. Chances if you have a pathway around that the solution is going to be hovering around in the same overall regulation in another chapter or paragraph.
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Sometimes I wonder if I like my MOS, and if I would be happier with regular Soldiers doing regular Army anything.
That said, taking care of the guys under me is really important to me. Don't know why, just want them to do better, learn more, and be better than I was and am. Doubt I'll be the best NCO, but so long as my guys are taken care of that's good enough for me.
So if you're having an issue with your MOS and you can't change it, make it about more than the MOS. You have Soldiers I'm sure, invest in them to the best of your ability. Whether that's Soldier tasks, MOS, or even just recognizing them with an award, make the next group of boots your purpose.
That said, taking care of the guys under me is really important to me. Don't know why, just want them to do better, learn more, and be better than I was and am. Doubt I'll be the best NCO, but so long as my guys are taken care of that's good enough for me.
So if you're having an issue with your MOS and you can't change it, make it about more than the MOS. You have Soldiers I'm sure, invest in them to the best of your ability. Whether that's Soldier tasks, MOS, or even just recognizing them with an award, make the next group of boots your purpose.
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SGT Reginald Tyler
You definitely have the right outlook on things, was set into supply sgt slot by a first sgt after I had just changed my mos 62F ( Forklift & crane) to 76C. Went to school and worked in the motor pool learning PLL maybe 5 months, first sgt came in told said your next step would be a Supply Sgt so go take over a AIT for 88M supply room. I did and me and the Update 14 had Plenty of late night and long days. I learned to love that MOS because you had such a direct impact on the soldiers lives. I never had any UCMJ actions against me and I made sure my job for the troops meant something. I made my E-5 in 84, I went in in 78, I became a Retired cancer survivor in disabled veteran in 2005. Still wearing Sergeant E-5 stripes. While on active duty I held up to an E-7 slot for a year and also worked S-4 quite a number of times, my problem was I would take of soldiers first and some officers believed they should be be first. Do you best job, stay respectful, tactful, and know your job in and out, remember as the person that controls the property book you have the power even if you don’t wear the rank.
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Don’t worry about the rank, find you a MOS you like and able to get into, that way you will do the best job possible and the rank will come eventually.
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SGT (Join to see) here is information on changing your rank:
https://rallypoint.force.com/Support/s/article/how-to-change-rank-within-pay-grade-2020-03-13-10-21-35
https://rallypoint.force.com/Support/s/article/how-to-change-rank-within-pay-grade-2020-03-13-10-21-35
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