Posted on May 10, 2014
SPC Ryan Su
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Dear SPC Ryan Su,

MOST EXCELLENT ! ! ! YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY DOING THE RIGHT THING ! ! !

My best wishes and most fervent prayers for a complete and effective recovery.
Many of us, including me, were addicted / overcame alcohol addiction with help.
Even though your Army family is spread to the four winds, we do care for you.
I am so pleased you reached out and your Army family was able to help you.

Warmest Regards, Sandy
SSG Robert Burns
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Just following up on you SPC Su to see how everything is going.
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CPT Brandon Christensen
CPT Brandon Christensen
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Keep it going brother! Stay positive!
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Cpl Ehr Specialist
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SSG Robert Burns Great example of NCO leadership.
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MSgt Electrical Power Production
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I concur with Cpl (Join to see). SSG Robert Burns Outstanding example of what it is being a NCO. Great job SSG!
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SrA Marc Haynes
SrA Marc Haynes
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Are you attending 12 a Step meetings!
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SPC Ryan Su
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i think i need help
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SGM Matthew Quick
SGM Matthew Quick
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Give them a call...Alcohol and Drug Control Officer (ADCO) - [login to see]

Their mission is to sustain readiness and promote a healthy lifestyle in the Fort Carson community by providing education, quality assistance in order to reduce the impact of alcohol and other drug abuse that affects Soldiers, Families, Civilians Employees and Retirees.
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SPC Ryan Su
SPC Ryan Su
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thank you sgt i'll give them a call.
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SGM Matthew Quick
SGM Matthew Quick
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Also, contact your first line supervisor...it takes a great deal of courage to ask for help; they'll understand.
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CMDCM Gene Treants
CMDCM Gene Treants
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If you THINK you need help, you do. Thanks for taking the time to reach out and ask.
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Any advice on how to stop drinking?
SFC Christopher Perry
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SPC Su,

It takes a whole lot of courage to look yourself in the mirror and acknowledge that you have a problem. It made my day to see everyone had already stepped up to help out. This, my friend is what RP is all about.
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SPC Ryan Su
SPC Ryan Su
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Thanks everybody on RP looking out for me ,I really don't know what would happened yesterday.If I didn't reached out for help. Thank you so much RP .now it's time for me to get on the right track and keep going!!!
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SFC Christopher Perry
SFC Christopher Perry
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I think I can pretty safely speak for the bulk of the RP population when I say that is exactly what we are here for. We have some really stupid conversations and bicker a bunch when we are bored. All that is set to side when one of our brothers or sisters is in need. It made me proud to read all the responses on your thread.

I wish you the best moving forward from here. You know where to find this motley group if you ever need assistance. Next time you post I would like it to be something stupid and meaningless that we can all fight about.
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SSG Robert Burns
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There's 21 guys from his HHC Company on here but I'm not friends with any of them. If someone is, shoot them a message to help this Soldier out. https://www.rallypoint.com/units/hhc-headquarters-headquarters-company-1st-battalion-66th-armor-regiment-fort-carson-co/current
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SPC Ryan Su
SPC Ryan Su
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Thanks guys I'm ok now ,but I'm on 24 hrs watched , I was pretty drunk before ,and no more drinks for me I'm done drinking
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MSgt Keith Hebert
MSgt Keith Hebert
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Congrats SPC Su you have a bunch of people looking out for you, and for that you are blessed. You have a tough road ahead stick to it. I wish you the best of luck.
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SSG (ret) William Martin
SSG (ret) William Martin
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Wow, RP can help soldiers out in a major way. Ask SSG Burns.
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SSG Robert Burns
SSG Robert Burns
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Definitely a RP success story. Great job SPC Su!
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SFC Mark Merino
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SPC Ryan Su I was an Olympic drinking contender and eventually got help.The hardest question to answer was "What makes you drink to excess?" I went down a laundry list of reasons "Why" I needed to/had the reason to (some jaw droppers!), but the bottom line was that I was just trying to hide from the reality of the situation. I went to the VA for help with PTSD and substance abuse was addressed as well. I wasn't grieving properly. I used alcohol to put all my issues on hold and I was stuck in my "healing process"....I wasn't healing......just justifying my actions to myself and to others. A lot of people say AA is the way to go. Support is very helpful, but I have met a lot of "sober drunks" who convince themselves that without AA, they are incapable of success. Not to take anything away from AA, results vary and some meetings are not meant for all. It's like leadership. Not all situations apply to all people at all times. If AA is the solution, find a group meeting that helps you the most. We have to get to the core of the problem. Alcohol abuse is typically the coping tool to deal with our pain. Human beings are excellent at finding ways to keep our pain in check. We drink, we isolate (or only hang out with people just like us), we do drugs, we become thrill seekers (being promiscious, speeding, fighting, gambling, anything that gets us an adrenaline rush), etc. Meanwhile, our tolerances increase, our decision making suffers, and our bodies fall apart. What are we running from/hiding from? RallyPoint is great for getting pointed in the right direction and for support, but there are no cures here. Self refer to a program and seek help with mental health professionals. Attack the problem from multiple avenues of approach. Best of luck, my brother. You are never alone.
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SFC Lloydwatkins Kahaloa
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I guess its the same no matter where you are. Being from the islands drinking and depression doesn't mix, and it sure doesn't make you superman either. My help came from guy I was about to tear apart. I had him pinned but something wasn't right. He didn't try to move but, instead, he submitted. Then looking at me ask if I need help. What a shocker. to make this short, I didn't beat him but help him up and said yes, I think I do. I still drink occasionally to not at all. You see, he died during Desert Storm on the last day. Now, and even before then, I've help others the same way and get them professional help. 
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
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We are all here to help you and listen.
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SPC Ryan Su
SPC Ryan Su
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The army it's the inmm
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SPC Ryan Su
SPC Ryan Su
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Thearmy
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SPC Ryan Su
SPC Ryan Su
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The army it's everything I have in really wanna be a good solider .
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SFC Cornelius Walsh
SFC Cornelius Walsh
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Admitting you have a problem, and seeking help for it is PART of being a good Soldier. Be honest about your problems, be truthful with your NCOs, and talk to professionals. This IS something that you can overcome - you've taken the right first step.
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I agree with everything posted so far. We are all here if you need anything. Don't be afraid to stand up and admit you have a problem. I'd be more than willing to give you my number if you need
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SPC Ryan Su
SPC Ryan Su
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Too much problems in my life best friend past away few day ago
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SPC Ryan Su
SPC Ryan Su
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When I was working for NYPD, I was watching my buddy died and I couldn't do anything to help
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SFC Senior Small Group Leader (Ssgl)
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Brother there are ways to work on this I assure you.
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SPC Ryan Su
SPC Ryan Su
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what should I do if the police had false arrest on my case because my wife's family had some kind of connation with the cops. Is there any veterans organization will step out to help my case?
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1LT David Moeglein
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Hi Ryan, I hope your recovery from alcohol is going well. You asked a question that has generated quite a bit of interest.

I have a bit of a different perspective on things. I am an alcoholic with 12 years of sobriety, as well as a mental health professional. I would like to give you my down and dirty of recovery from addiction. My recommendation is to do what works and stop what doesn't. If quitting cold turkey works, great. However, be careful with this. Withdrawing from alcohol abruptly can cause seizures and death. It's best to get some help with this.

Once you stop drinking, then you may need help to stay stopped. Einstein's definition of insanity applies in the world of addiction. Doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results is the story of the addict. You don't want to err on the side of doing to little for your recovery. If you want to try self help meetings, and don't have problems with higher power thing, go to AA meetings. There are other meetings for those who get tripped up by the mention of God or a higher power. Get the phone numbers of people at your meetings, so that you can call them when you are triggered to drink. Ask someone who has what you want to be your sponsor. Then work the steps. Remember what lengths you would go to drink, and invest at least that much energy in your recovery. Maybe going to 90 meetings in 90 days will be enough.

Chaplains are a great resource and have levels of confidentiality that other mental health professionals don't have. Some chaplains have a better handle on this issue than others, so you may want to ask the chaplain you're speaking to for a referral to one with experience in this area. If you go the self-help route, chaplains are a great resource when doing the 5th step.

If the self-help route and a chaplain are not enough for you, then I recommend seeing a drug and alcohol counselor for an assessment to determine what level of professional care you need. By reading the above post of 1stSgt James Nolan, it seems like Military One Source is a good resource for this. I agree with his suggestion that you come forward for help. Your chain of command doesn't have time for games. They have a mission that they must be prepared for. You will have to be proactive in seeking help. There are many levels, outpatient, intensive outpatient, 28 day inpatient, and more. There are also dual diagnosis programs for those who also struggle with a mental illness as well. The professionals will help you figuring all of this out.

Keep looking for answers, and don't give up until you have the life you want. I stopped drinking by going to a variety of 12-step meetings, and realizing that alcohol was getting in the way of my recovery. I had incentive to quit, because I was working in a maximum security psychiatric hospital with dangerous psychopaths at the time. Continuing to drink didn't seem like a good idea. I wanted to know where my boundaries were and where the psychopaths were. Fuzzy boundaries didn't seem like a good idea with this crowd. Finally, I keep my sobriety by giving my sobriety away. That is why I am sharing with you today.

My situation at the time is not dissimilar to that of any infantryman with a drinking problem. I'm looking at stories of ISIS around the world, and we are looking at an organization run by psychopaths. If I were an infantryman, I wouldn't want to give the enemy an opportunity to catch me off guard.

Feel free to message me if you have any questions. I wish you all of the best.
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SGT Richard H.
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I see that this post is 5 months old, and was resurrected a few days ago, but this is the first time I'm seeing it. SPC Ryan Su I hope all of this is working out for you. I've dealt with family members needing the same help, and I pray that you've gotten it and all is well. It's no fun for anyone involved, least of all you.
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SSG Maurice P.
SSG Maurice P.
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DONT TAKE ANOTHER DRINK!!!!NEVER
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SSG Maurice P.
SSG Maurice P.
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THATS HOW I QUIT SMOKING CIGARETTES AND WEED HAVENT HAD EITHER SINCE 4NOV1980...SAME WITH ALCOHOL IN 1985...AND I WENT THRU REHAB IN 1980...
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SPC(P) Nick Bondgien
SPC(P) Nick Bondgien
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I hear Ya SSG. I was sent to C-DAC to get my tab on Coleman but then before I could head to rehab in Heidelberg; we loaded and rolled. Shit got crazy after the LeBelle bombing. 12yrs later I finally got it...the understanding I needed real help.
I did Rehab, 21Sept 1998. Haven't HAD to use since then. What a relief that is/was. 
When Ya come outta rehab they may suggest 90mtgs in 90days. It wouldn't be suggested if it didn't work for the majority. But at the end of the day,Ya gotta say to yourself, this is 'nuff.  
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LTC Mark Gavula
LTC Mark Gavula
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12 Step Programs are the best COA w/ the help of sponsors. As with anything, it works as long as you work it.
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