Posted on Dec 27, 2014
ARCOM for calling out inappropriate use in Social Media. Appropriate or not?
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Disagree because she is a Senior NCO and or just a NCO doing what is right. I have seen soldiers complete a combat deployment, day in day out missions and only receive AAM.
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I went to Iraq for a year and got an ARCOM. I could have just surfed the net in the A/C I guess.
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As a junior NCO, I would expect my 1SG to do this. It's part of his or her job. I've always been told that an AAM is for those going above and beyond. Rarely see the ARCOM handed out in garrison.
I would hope that no 1SG feels this is "above and beyond". This was the right thing to do. Kudos to this 1SG for her actions, but ARCOM worthy? I would hope not.
I would hope that no 1SG feels this is "above and beyond". This was the right thing to do. Kudos to this 1SG for her actions, but ARCOM worthy? I would hope not.
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Wow... I really can't say more than that. I had soldiers (PVT to SGT) that drove gun trucks in Iraq for year and I couldn't get them a "V" for their award... and this warrants a ARCOM. No I don't agree with this award.
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An ARCOM for trolling on social media...and doing your job as a 1SG...all I can do is shake my head. Good job for her for doing what she did because thats what NCO's do, but the dog and pony show and award...smh
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This is a prime example of how the newer ARMY is shaping up to be. Instead of keeping things at the lowest level we escalate every situation to the highest level possible. To me this is a sign of weak Leadership.
I do believe that the 1SG was right to try and handle it through PM. I think there may have been another avenue to resolve the situation instead of ensuring higher commands got CC'd on the wrong doing. I have mentors whom I ask about handling a situation. No matter your rank you should always have mentors.
Rewarding this action only reinforces circumventing your Chain of Command and going straight to the top. I saw this tactic in TRADOC as well. TRADOC has avenue's for initial entry Soldiers to e-mail the General directly. Since that is all they know when arriving to a Unit they do not trust or have faith in the NCO Corps and ask to see the highest Command possible utilizing open door when it could have been handled at Platoon level or lower.
SHARP however is now considered a big issue because it was disregarded for so long. It is the primary focus within the Military right now. Therefore this situation is being highlighted to try and bring a more positive light on the ARMY by showing the program does work. I find it disgusting how Leaders utilized their position to get pleasure. I personally only see Soldiers.
I do have an issue with awarding someone who openly admitted to stating that an individual is "stupid." At the level of 1SG more tact is in order. Not to call the kettle black as I am still working on my tact daily. I just wonder to what level of name calling came into play during this back and forth banter.
We are in a digital age now and therefore we must be completely computer literate as well as keep up with all "Social Media." I do not consider what the 1SG did as trolling. As Leaders we are going to have to maintain order and discipline in all facets of life. Soldiers are representing the United States and the Military! It is our job as Leaders to police up wrong actions. I would not be surprised to see an MOS develop out of dealing with internet situations.
I do not constantly check but if I see something inappropriate I do message the individual if they are on or appear to be Active Duty. There again I am not friends with lower enlisted; only NCO's and Leaders with whom I worked with but are no longer stationed together. Unfortunately it is a powerful tool to stay connected.
I can see where some would get riled up over this award but it is what it is. Individuals are always going to get an award which some do not agree with. I personally do not care for awards as most are given off who you know, rank, and numbers. I would not want such fan fare for being a Leader. Of course that is me personally. I prefer to quietly Lead.
I do believe that the 1SG was right to try and handle it through PM. I think there may have been another avenue to resolve the situation instead of ensuring higher commands got CC'd on the wrong doing. I have mentors whom I ask about handling a situation. No matter your rank you should always have mentors.
Rewarding this action only reinforces circumventing your Chain of Command and going straight to the top. I saw this tactic in TRADOC as well. TRADOC has avenue's for initial entry Soldiers to e-mail the General directly. Since that is all they know when arriving to a Unit they do not trust or have faith in the NCO Corps and ask to see the highest Command possible utilizing open door when it could have been handled at Platoon level or lower.
SHARP however is now considered a big issue because it was disregarded for so long. It is the primary focus within the Military right now. Therefore this situation is being highlighted to try and bring a more positive light on the ARMY by showing the program does work. I find it disgusting how Leaders utilized their position to get pleasure. I personally only see Soldiers.
I do have an issue with awarding someone who openly admitted to stating that an individual is "stupid." At the level of 1SG more tact is in order. Not to call the kettle black as I am still working on my tact daily. I just wonder to what level of name calling came into play during this back and forth banter.
We are in a digital age now and therefore we must be completely computer literate as well as keep up with all "Social Media." I do not consider what the 1SG did as trolling. As Leaders we are going to have to maintain order and discipline in all facets of life. Soldiers are representing the United States and the Military! It is our job as Leaders to police up wrong actions. I would not be surprised to see an MOS develop out of dealing with internet situations.
I do not constantly check but if I see something inappropriate I do message the individual if they are on or appear to be Active Duty. There again I am not friends with lower enlisted; only NCO's and Leaders with whom I worked with but are no longer stationed together. Unfortunately it is a powerful tool to stay connected.
I can see where some would get riled up over this award but it is what it is. Individuals are always going to get an award which some do not agree with. I personally do not care for awards as most are given off who you know, rank, and numbers. I would not want such fan fare for being a Leader. Of course that is me personally. I prefer to quietly Lead.
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Wow... I got an ARCOM for rebuilding the entire website for tracking casualties in A'stan. Then again, I got an AAM for taking in 150 casualties.
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not for chastising someone for face book. If you gotta search this hard to give somone an award then they need looked at in other areas.
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The position of 1SG must have changed description since I was one. As a 1SG, I never had the time to troll the internet (of course there was no social forums like facebook or twitter back then), even so, we were too busy with the day to day running of a company to be browsing on the internet. And a 3 star general thinks it's important enough to give her an ARCOM really? Getting a medal for browsing the internet. Must be a hell of a 1SG.
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I'm sorry, but I can't contribute to the vote tally. I don't see an option that reflects my opinion.
I might have voted "Yes" but not "...because the 1SG was doing what a 1SG should do." Indeed, no soldier should receive any award for doing what they should do unless they do it in an outstandingly meritorious manner.
I might have voted "No" but I am not a commanding general. I don't have a vote in deciding who should or should not receive any award. Had I been the CG in this case, no I probably would not have made the award unless there is other information to which I am not privy.
I received two ARCOMs for meritorious achievement, one in Vietnam and the other in Hawaii, while on active duty. In both cases I managed ad hoc teams that successfully completed difficult projects, projects which others had attempted and failed. I am proud of those awards.
Given the information presented, I might feel that the cited award of an ARCOM possibly was demeaning to my awards. However, the citations accompanying my awards speak far more eloquently than the medals themselves. When the granddaughters ask what they are for, I am proud to explain. I wonder if the 1SG will be equally proud?
I might have voted "Yes" but not "...because the 1SG was doing what a 1SG should do." Indeed, no soldier should receive any award for doing what they should do unless they do it in an outstandingly meritorious manner.
I might have voted "No" but I am not a commanding general. I don't have a vote in deciding who should or should not receive any award. Had I been the CG in this case, no I probably would not have made the award unless there is other information to which I am not privy.
I received two ARCOMs for meritorious achievement, one in Vietnam and the other in Hawaii, while on active duty. In both cases I managed ad hoc teams that successfully completed difficult projects, projects which others had attempted and failed. I am proud of those awards.
Given the information presented, I might feel that the cited award of an ARCOM possibly was demeaning to my awards. However, the citations accompanying my awards speak far more eloquently than the medals themselves. When the granddaughters ask what they are for, I am proud to explain. I wonder if the 1SG will be equally proud?
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