Posted on Dec 27, 2014
ARCOM for calling out inappropriate use in Social Media. Appropriate or not?
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We are continuing to devalue awards or give them to people for whatever the flavor of the day is.
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It's kind of like when the Army took away the Rangers Black Berets and gave them to everyone. By god when I was in only Paratroopers, Rangers, and SF had their berets. I got my ARCOM for saving an 8 year old choking, while I was on duty as an MP on Ft. Bragg. Basic Training is sucking hind tit from my understanding now as well. They have to give these kids their electronics while in AIT and these stress cards I keep hearing about.... Get stressed out pull your card and the DI's can't fuck with you for the day. The traditions are fading away thanks to Political Correctness. Something that has absolutely no place in the Military!
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Oh myyyy.... I didn't realize calling someone an asshat was award worthy. If that was the case I would have cursed up more of a storm while active duty. Ha ha ha!
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Rick Wiseman
You stole my favorite name for idiots and dumbasses... Don't hear to many others using the asshat call out lol...
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Sgt Jennifer Mohler
I would have SO many more friends around here if that was award worthy behavior ha ha ha.
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Gee what's next an ARCOM for policing cigarette butts? I mean really folks I don't see why you would give an award for doing this, and the other thing I did not get is why it wasn't given to their command to deal with internally. Then again when i served from 79-83 the social media was not even an issue then.
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SSG (Join to see)
No. An ARCOM for supervising those who are picking up cigarette butts. LOL. Good comment though.
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PFC Kevin Adrian
I am glad you saw my tongue in cheek humor as just that. I thought it was ridiculous that they gave an ARCOM to the 1SG for that.
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Making an on-the-spot correction, whether online or in person, has never rated an award. I think this makes a mockery of the entire awards process (which is already a joke).
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What she did was right. She did not go above and beyond in any way. We had medics run into blast zones consistently that were put in for an ARCOM with V device that were shut down for doing their job. That is above and beyond. This was her policing up soldiers which is the job of any NCO worth his or her salt. So no. She didn't deserve any award. Maybe a letter of recommendation from the lieutenant general, but not an award.
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I've seen awards given for much less. Awards are always a sore point. I believe we've cheapened awards over the years. Handing out AAMs and ARCOMs for individuals doing their job.
I believe in rewarding exceptional service and responsibility - not simply because a Soldier came to work and then moves on.
I believe in rewarding exceptional service and responsibility - not simply because a Soldier came to work and then moves on.
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Her actions hardly rate a medal. If the people on social media are REPRESENTING the military as some do, then they should be taken to task. However, social interaction should not cause someone in the military to be "scolded" for their opinion. To me, this iis like rewarding a 'tattle-tale' back when I was a kid. Fastest way known to anyone to become
a bully magnet....
a bully magnet....
If that was a 3-star general out of line, I doubt she would be so bold. I think her intent was legitimate but her zeal misapplied.
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(My comedic response) I have trolled your responses, contacted high ranking people who will contact the president and expect my legion of merit in the mail. On a serious note, she was doing the right thing. The general saw fit to award her for standing up when most wouldn't. That is a different form of bravery. We can't compare our awards to everyone else's. Some of yours may be considered less worthy. People have sacrificed their lives and received less than a bronze star. How many seniors do you know have one for deploying and never getting of the FOB. What you don't see is that those staff officers and NCOs were charged with the operations section. Their jobs were different but no less important. As far as this first sergeant, I see much on social media that bothers me. I don't engage when it is minor. It's like hearing soldiers complain about something. I could stop and yell at them and tell them that they are unloyal to the commander for not supporting his policy. But sometimes soldiers just need to gripe and complain. And we need to let them. Then engage later.
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I've seen commendation medals handed out for stupider things than this. No surprises here.
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I would also like to take a moment to point out the last word in her Facebook rebuttal to the blogger ... it's a$$hat for those who don't want to look it up. While she may have been sending a message with her response to inappropriate comments online, what type of message is she sending now?
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SSG (Join to see)
Ass hat is used twice in Shakespeare thus is a proper use of the english language. She was merely expressing her knowledge of The Bard.
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SSG (Join to see)
Upon review, gentlemen what you are doing is called quibbling or sharp shooting and really does not look good in commissioned personnel, particularly when referencing a senior enlisted leader.
The choice to make your sole comment on the issue to be critical of a a single word is undermining to Army Policy. In addition it comes off as sounding petty. Personally I would redact the whole thread.
I expect better of a man teaching at West Point.
The choice to make your sole comment on the issue to be critical of a a single word is undermining to Army Policy. In addition it comes off as sounding petty. Personally I would redact the whole thread.
I expect better of a man teaching at West Point.
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MAJ (Join to see)
No SGT, it is not quibbling. Quibbling would indicate that her language on social media doesn't matter; when I believe it does. I expect a senior enlisted personnel to hold herself to a standard at all times. She should have kept quiet on social media and not reacted to the blogger. However, she chose to say something and she chose poorly; setting a bad example.
And please, do not try to make a personal attack at my position. That only discredits your own comments.
And please, do not try to make a personal attack at my position. That only discredits your own comments.
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She is an NCO, a Senior NCO at that. It was her job to do the right thing. While I applaud her efforts and dedication, I don't see anything in what was done that would merit any level of an award (and I review award for a living, so believe me, I've seen some really questionable awards). In fact, I once reviewed a submitted award for a Soldier because they passed a record APFT (on the 3rd try, after 9 months of failing diagnostic APFTs). I'm sorry, since when do we award people for doing their JOB to STANDARD....
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Hey! Can't hate on her. I mean she got an award for something that she would give an NCO a "Success" for on their NCOER. Her chain of command hooked her up, it is what it is.
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Whether on Social Media or not, inappropriate behavior is inappropriate behavior. Maybe seeing praise and reward for such actions will encourage more to follow in her footsteps.
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As you kidding me! A pat on the back at best... what happened to doing the right thing - because its the right thing to do! My lord is the Army turning into the TSA when ever you "do your job" then a Supervisor or Lead Supervisor writes you up an "attaboy". All that is doing to the ARCOM is diluting the value of it. I personally would not even give the soldier an AAM either... If the Chain of Command is that excited what about a "Letter of Recognition". Hell - this 1SG who received that ARCOM just made me proud for getting a "Letter of Reprimand" (from my Infantry Battalion CSM) back in 1979, I think I am going to frame it now and hang it and pull down my ARCOMs...
Why didn't the 1SG jump down the throats of the Platoon Sergeant/s who are the assigned leader/s of these social media violators... So the Platoon Sergeants can go after the Squad Leaders who I am sure can jump down the throats of the social media violators... I am sure that is how the Chain of Command works or at least did work at one time.
Why didn't the 1SG jump down the throats of the Platoon Sergeant/s who are the assigned leader/s of these social media violators... So the Platoon Sergeants can go after the Squad Leaders who I am sure can jump down the throats of the social media violators... I am sure that is how the Chain of Command works or at least did work at one time.
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That is not worth for an award, that is disrespectful for those who actually earned an ARCOM
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