Posted on Nov 29, 2020
Are there any regulations about soldiers' chow hours/rights?
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Example, certain amount of time between work, soldiers have rights to grab a food to eat
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I worked at a site off a base in Turkey, but lived in a barracks on the main base. We had to feed ourselves while at work as there was no other place to eat. They moved us to another building on the site and also moved our stove. It was never hooked up even though it was noted daily on the report. On top of this, there was a strike by the Turkish civilian workers in the country. We had to scrounge to find food to buy on base to take to work and I learned to cook what I could in a hot pot. Water was not potable at the site, so we drank Tom Collins mixer - only thing we could find. At the chow hall on base, only vegetable for a month was brussel sprouts. I still like them. Bread and milk at the chow hall were limited. Letters to the editor in Stars and Stripes from people stationed in Germany complained about choices of dog food at the commissary. We were thankful to the C-130 crews that flew in what food they could to keep us alive.
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I don't know what the regulations actually are, but here is my story...
I was doing training evaluations once, where my entire platoon decided to stop eating food from the battalion kitchens. Were were there for three weeks. The first week, while we were preping and training up, the food being provided to us in the field was quarter rations, at best. A small piece of meat a leaf or two of lettus, or salad dressing (not both) and maybe a teaspoon of rice or mashed potatoes. About day four we decided as a platoon to screw them and we brought our money together and provided our own food, and we were eating well. This action was ignored for about three or four days, but when our evaluation started, they noticed we weren't eating. They actually brought real food to the evaluation lane, plenty to eat. We as a platoon told them we didn't want it, to send it to the guys in the staging area, since they were getting enough to eat.
We didn't hide we had food. We didn't deny eating, but when word got out we were refusing to eat... a possible "hunger strike"... the proverbial excrement hit the spinning turbine.
The CO and First Sargent came out wanting to know what was going on, we told him. Then the Battalion Commander and CSM came out. Then the Brigade, and then the base commander and CSM. They even sent out the chaplains. We told them all the why. We told them all we were eating better on pogey bait then what we were getting from the mess.
The mess sections started telling everyone we were pigging out and then dumping the left overs, and that was why there wasn't enough food.
Of course anyone there, saw we weren't.
In the end, only one soldier broke ranks and ate the issued food.
We agreed to eat the last meal that was to be sent out. It of course, did not show, and we ordered Dominoes on the range.
I took great pleasure reading an article 6 months later about how the Battalion Kitchen Stuart was being charged with hoarding. He was apparently pulling funds from the training exercises, to have extra money for the Battalion Christmas Party. Our stand, brought attention to a real crime.
Apparently there are some really important standards that must be met.
I was doing training evaluations once, where my entire platoon decided to stop eating food from the battalion kitchens. Were were there for three weeks. The first week, while we were preping and training up, the food being provided to us in the field was quarter rations, at best. A small piece of meat a leaf or two of lettus, or salad dressing (not both) and maybe a teaspoon of rice or mashed potatoes. About day four we decided as a platoon to screw them and we brought our money together and provided our own food, and we were eating well. This action was ignored for about three or four days, but when our evaluation started, they noticed we weren't eating. They actually brought real food to the evaluation lane, plenty to eat. We as a platoon told them we didn't want it, to send it to the guys in the staging area, since they were getting enough to eat.
We didn't hide we had food. We didn't deny eating, but when word got out we were refusing to eat... a possible "hunger strike"... the proverbial excrement hit the spinning turbine.
The CO and First Sargent came out wanting to know what was going on, we told him. Then the Battalion Commander and CSM came out. Then the Brigade, and then the base commander and CSM. They even sent out the chaplains. We told them all the why. We told them all we were eating better on pogey bait then what we were getting from the mess.
The mess sections started telling everyone we were pigging out and then dumping the left overs, and that was why there wasn't enough food.
Of course anyone there, saw we weren't.
In the end, only one soldier broke ranks and ate the issued food.
We agreed to eat the last meal that was to be sent out. It of course, did not show, and we ordered Dominoes on the range.
I took great pleasure reading an article 6 months later about how the Battalion Kitchen Stuart was being charged with hoarding. He was apparently pulling funds from the training exercises, to have extra money for the Battalion Christmas Party. Our stand, brought attention to a real crime.
Apparently there are some really important standards that must be met.
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I hated Sundays at Fort Leonard Wood during Basic and AIT. They fed us between 0500 to 0600 and at 1100 to 1200 and at 1500 to 1600. That seemed like a long time from from the evening meal to the morning meal on Monday. It was nice once we got off some privileges and could get some food from the Gut Truck or PX. I was a damn candy junky when I first got there. I'd kill for a chocolate candy bar.
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I served in the Navy, and we had 4 chow times whenever we were underway. Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, and MidRats. (Midnight chow) for those on night duty rotations. Otherwise, 3 set times, never changed or messed with.
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Yes, there are. Your immediate supervisor has likely already explained them to you. If you miss a meal or two due to your work schedule, it is unfortunate, but you will live. If you are being denied subsistence on a regular basis you need to work the problem through your chain.
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Rights to grab from where- think you are going down to the food court, or Burger King? Think again. You have time to visit the DFAS, they can tell you 15,30,45,minutes or even an hour. They don't have to give you from the time DFAS opens, till it closes.
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If you are missing meals due to work and are being charged meal deductions you have the right to request a missed meal voucher. That bing said if MREs are being provided you are SOL. One of my old companies PSGs made a PL do them because he was bad at time management and forced us to stay late and work through lunch and we missed chow lunch and dinner for a week straight. If mission dictates the command can also request separate rations. Long story short make sure you’re bringing it up. Leaders have a lot going on and most of the times I’ve dealt with it they were just so busy they didn’t realize what time it was. Give them a chance to fix the issue.
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