Posted on Jan 23, 2016
Army APFT: Should NCOs have a higher minimum 'standard'?
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The Army's minimum APFT score is 180 (at least 60 points in each of the 3 events).
Should NCOs have a higher minimum 'standard' than their Soldiers to attain qualifications for continued service?
If yes, what should the NCO Standard be and why
If no, we'd be curious to read some points of view.
Should NCOs have a higher minimum 'standard' than their Soldiers to attain qualifications for continued service?
If yes, what should the NCO Standard be and why
If no, we'd be curious to read some points of view.
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I understand what you saying here SGM. I agree with it, someone wants to be a leader, their standards in certain areas should be higher.
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Higher standards no...i feel that is a slippery slope and as pointed out.. Will lead to a 300 being a requirement to reach the top which isn't right. I do however believe they should have STRICTER standards. Once you're in a leadership position I feel it should be unacceptable to fail an apft, but I've had leadership that failed on numerous occasions. That sets a very poor example and should not be tolerated
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I think the NCOs should have to maintain at least an 80 in each event. I say this because NCOs are tasked with the responsibility of leading soldiers and motivating them. PT scores seem to take priority over a lot of other attributes in the Army, so as a leader,your PT score should be higher.
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maybe instead of upping the PT standards, we should work to change the mindset that puts too much emphasis on PT scores. I can think of a dozen attributes that should be higher priority than PT. Not to say that people should be lazy slugs, but the ability to do PT is pretty far down on the practical use chart.
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Just to add, in my experience we never promoted a Marine to Cpl who didnt run a first Class PFT.
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I think that is a good idea. Most units already do this on an unofficial standard. If you were an NCO and got a low score you would be frowned upon. You are expected to set the example. This should be for leadership and PT. You have to lead to the front. How can you lead by example and you are just trying to pass.
With officers we are expected also to exceed in PT. But we also do this to so our soldiers have confidence in our to lead.
With officers we are expected also to exceed in PT. But we also do this to so our soldiers have confidence in our to lead.
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MAJ (Join to see)
I'd really disagree with this. If a standard is "unofficial" its not really a standard, is it?
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As some have already mentioned in their response, I too feel there's more to being a leader than just being able to excel at taking an APFT. This is just one dimension of being a great leader.
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SGM Matthew Quick I already hold myself to a higher standard. I would be disappointed with any NCO that didn't.
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I'm sure there already is. It's just not "written" in the Regs. Beware the troop, let alone the NCO that "barely" passes the test. I'm sure there will be a "heart to heart" with leadership regardless what the passing score is, and it will reflect in the evaluations, even if it does not say for that reason.
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Sure, all leaders should. Up into a certain point though because our bodies all start breaking down.
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CW2 Michael Mullikin
Same with me! never failed a PT test, never failed to throw up after the run. We might start our own group!
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