Posted on Feb 13, 2015
Army Reserve exception to policy to allow retiring officers to continue to serve as Warrant Officers. Thoughts?
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According to an S1NET message, the Army Reserve will begin giving retiring or retired Commissioned Officers the opportunity to avoid mandatory retirement by taking appointments as Warrant Officers (CW2).
How does the Warrant community feel about this?
Would you resign as an O-5 or O-6 to become a Warrant or retire?
https://www.milsuite.mil/book/docs/DOC-187126
How does the Warrant community feel about this?
Would you resign as an O-5 or O-6 to become a Warrant or retire?
https://www.milsuite.mil/book/docs/DOC-187126
Army Reserve
Retirement
Warrant Officers
Officer
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I would seriously be against it. Warrant service should not be a consolation prize. There's already too much integration of Warrant Officers into the Officer Corps, and we're starting to lose some of what made us an asset to the force.
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It does seem to cheapen the warrant officer rank a bit, LTC (Join to see). That's on the one hand. On the other hand, it gives Officers who want to continue to serve the opportunity to do so. Overall, I'm for it. (I saw this done with Officers after Vietnam. One of my first NCOICs was a RIF'd Captain, then serving as a Sergeant First Class.)
I can imagine a Lieutenant Colonel or a Colonel who might not be technically qualified to do the job of a Warrant Officer, as they are primarily leaders and may not be technically proficient. But on the whole, I think it's probably a good idea and the retiring/retired Officers will likely succeed as Warrant Officers.
I can imagine a Lieutenant Colonel or a Colonel who might not be technically qualified to do the job of a Warrant Officer, as they are primarily leaders and may not be technically proficient. But on the whole, I think it's probably a good idea and the retiring/retired Officers will likely succeed as Warrant Officers.
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LTC (Join to see)
If CW5 (Join to see) is for it, then that settles it for me. I had no idea there was precedent for this in Vietnam. Thanks Chief!
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LTC (Join to see)
I have a number of colleagues to whom this may apply. With multiple deployments, a handful of active duty years, and a break in service, many run up against their MRD just outside of sanctuary to achieve AFS retirement.
In the log field, you can definitely have practitioners who remain technical experts, especially if they transition over at the CW3-ish level, which is more staff like than not.
In the log field, you can definitely have practitioners who remain technical experts, especially if they transition over at the CW3-ish level, which is more staff like than not.
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LTC John Mohor
Just remember that once that service member retires they'll receive pay for the rank that they achieved and performed satisfactorily. CW2 or CW3 with 0-5 or 0-6 based retirement checks isn't a bad way to transition!
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It would depend on the field, and it should be approved by the respective branch.
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I chose to retire. I didn't have the option then. If a person had the right skill sets then I don't see an issue at all! A prime example would be Warrant Aviators. I'll bet there are plenty of former commissioned officers that would have loved to increased their flying days!
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I question weather an officer at that grade would be the right fit for a CW2 position. The entire mind set is different.
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LTC John Mohor
SSG Squires ever heard or read about MOH awardee CW5 Novosel? He even transferred from the US Air Force to the US Army as a LTC to WO 1. His story is well worth the read!
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This is an interesting issue. I'd ask you to think about this. What is the actual benefit of the Warrant Officer Corps to the organization? Think about that as a problem statement. Your GOs and TACOMs parts replace mentality instead of fix have made the need for a technician moot.
Do Warrant Officers today serve a Commander or unit as intended? I think your CW5 population need to conduct their own discussion on their actual task and purpose. If not you will see a slow chipping away of the Warrant Officer Corps.
As a BSB Commander I needed and utilized our Warrant Officers. I even made a CW4 our SPO. But TACOM, CECOM, ect made everything difficult with endless red tape.
We need Warrant Officers in our Army. We also need Warrant Officers Corps to forget the silent professional creed and take back their proud Corps.
LTC Martin
Do Warrant Officers today serve a Commander or unit as intended? I think your CW5 population need to conduct their own discussion on their actual task and purpose. If not you will see a slow chipping away of the Warrant Officer Corps.
As a BSB Commander I needed and utilized our Warrant Officers. I even made a CW4 our SPO. But TACOM, CECOM, ect made everything difficult with endless red tape.
We need Warrant Officers in our Army. We also need Warrant Officers Corps to forget the silent professional creed and take back their proud Corps.
LTC Martin
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I'm no Warrant Officer but do know most have been initiated CPOs, no matter the Rate, being initiated taught me many lessons still used in life. Without coming through the ranks, I don't feel any direct Commissioned Officer, Mustang excluded of course, should act in anything but their Designation. If you retire apply your knowledge to Veterans Organizations, e.g., VFW, FRA, American Legion and help them to thrive and act as the bulwark against Congress's removal of Veterans Benefits and keep them afloat and prospering. Your Managerial expertise can be applied in a new course of action.
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