Posted on Nov 12, 2013
Avoiding Saluting an LT; What do you do when you see this?
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I was at Luke AFB and personally witnessed an NCO take the longest path possible to get to their car to avoid saluting me. I didn't try to get into his path to "force" a salute but it just seems unnecessary for that kind of animosity. I understand that people may not be fond with the idea of saluting a fresh new 22-year-old LT. <div><br></div><div>What do you guys think? What situations have you guys been in? For those who have experienced this, how did you handle it? </div>
Posted 12 y ago
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Personally i find it more entertaining to set them up so they end up saluting like 40 privates in a row. :)
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Band of Brothers - We salute the rank, not the man!
This is one of my favorite scenes from Band of Brothers.
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It's a disgrace, yes the NCO has more experiences and most likely fit to lead but that LT is the future leader, he should be mentored and helped. Not resented and disrespected.
He is a higher rank, that means respect. You don't have to like him, you don't have to agree with him, but you have to respect and salute him .
He is a higher rank, that means respect. You don't have to like him, you don't have to agree with him, but you have to respect and salute him .
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If you were feeling particularly snarky, you should have altered your path to ensure that he had to salute you. That would have been funny to watch....
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That would have definitely been in the top 10 tool bag moments if you ended up doing that. I'm glad you didn't "force a salute".
Anyways, saluting is a sign of respect to the person who renders it and the person who returns it. It's not just for the officer.
Anyways, saluting is a sign of respect to the person who renders it and the person who returns it. It's not just for the officer.
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Some soldiers feel as if they do not owe a new LT that respect, or saluting. Some soldiers enjoy watching new LTs get furious about it. It's a strange world we live in. (for the record, I've never been one of those soldiers.)
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When at Officer Basic Course I had a drill sergeant put his head down to ensure that the brim of his hat covered his face as he walked by myself and one of my classmates. I did not say anything but thought well there is a great leader who will teach my new Soldiers the same disrespect. It is that plain and simple. Disrespectful. You salute the rank not the person so just get it over with.
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Sorry to hear this happened to you Sir. To sum up most simply, a salute does not honor the recipient alone but also brings respect upon the soldier as well. In honoring the traditions and respecting the rank we honor and respect each other.
Allons
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Now it goes both ways; I have seen TONS of officers either slow down (or even stop walking) and even take different paths to avoid a salute.
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As lower enlisted.......<div><br></div><div>I would tell my friends, the only thing I can, by regulation, make an officer do is salute me! Once I salute they are required to return it! </div><div><br></div><div>LOL!!</div><div><br></div><div><span style="color: rgb(77, 77, 77); font-size: 12px;">On a serious note...</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(77, 77, 77); font-size: 12px;"><br></span></div><div><font color="#4d4d4d"><span style="font-size: 12px;">In the grand scheme of things it seems lifting my hand a few feet a few times a day is minute, especially when many of my brothers and sisters in arms can no longer salute! Those who find saluting to be such a trivial task should really reassess their lives/priorities!! Not only is its disrespectful it is just plain lazy!</span></font><br></div>
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As i said earlier whether the NCO was STIFF lipped or having a bad day your not saluting the person your saluting the rank but dressing down a Nco in public would have been wrong you should of pulled him aside and addressed the issue right then and there would have been the right path if done in a private area
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Right but when I say he avoided, I mean that they traversed a path that wouldn't be in my "salute zone" if you will. No regulations were broken in this situation. Praise in public. Discipline behind closed doors.
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