Posted on May 25, 2020
Can anybody explain to me what the phrase "organic elements concurrently constituted" means?
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These sorts of phrases are found on military lineage and honors.
Military History
Unit Awards
Tradition
Esprit de Corps
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Yes. I have been researching lineage and honors. So let's say the Battalion was constituted on 1 OCT 2020, if that statement is affixed, it means they constituted the companies at the same time 1OCT 2020. Usually they only constitute a unit once, then it is redesignated, reorganized, inactivated, and reactivated from there. AR870-5 covers CMH lineage and honors and AR220-5 covers unit designations. There is, somewhere, the General Order that formed the unit.
Edited: AR220-5 Para 2-2 and 2-3
Edited: AR220-5 Para 2-2 and 2-3
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MAJ (Join to see)
Thank you, Sir! I did some additional research using a military dictionary, as well as comparing with other phrases found on the lineage website, and saw what you just said. You always learn something new!
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I believe it has something to do with a reorganization and redesigned unit.
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Literally, or why does the Army use phrases like this? Literally it translates to "What we have in the unit right now". Someone wanted to get wordy and decided to use bigger words than they needed to. Typical Army, trying to make a 5 minute task last all day.
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SSG Frank Garvis
Or "What we had in the unit at the time". So if you're saying "We are not able to fulfill this tasking due to the lack of organic elements as concurrently constituted in B Co...." That's a fancy way of saying "We don't have no guys to do your tasker, sir..." :)
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LTC Jason Mackay
SSG Frank Garvis - it means they are standing up the unit and its subordinate units at the same time. Many Army organizations get built from existing units and parts of others. You see this from when they built Army Divisions, many started from an existing BN or even a Company.
Has nothing to do with making a task last all day and being overly complicated.
Has nothing to do with making a task last all day and being overly complicated.
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