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I find that a quite interesting question for a whole slew of reasons...however, specifically, a good friend of my wife and myself is a SUNY Maritime MARGRAE, who finished out USNR as N O-4, though he wasn't called up under activation at any point, he did it purely on drills. In another case, one of the senior assoc pastors of the Pentecostal church we go to, my wife is extremely devout, I kind of got drawn into their universe, all very nice people, was Army Natl Guard. In both instances, I've checked for both of them, and evidently, they get no VA benefits of any kind, I've gathered, not VA mortgage, not VA medical, nothing, zero, zip, nada, in the case of the pastor, that was because he was drilling under NY STTe, though he wore US Army, not NY State on his uniform, which, quite frankly, I found quite incredible. In digging into the whole thing somewhat more, I've been given to understand that the whole thing about Natl Guard drilling and actually given a DD214, yet not being deemed VA eligible, being as they were paid using state, and not Federal funds, has apparently been raised before, I just found the combination of both circumstances somewhat surprising to say the least...any thoughts, anyone? I'd be most eager to hear them, if anyone of you might have any notions...am I totally out to lunch in the whole topic? Am I in la la land thinking they should get all the usual routine vet benefits? I realize I might ne, weirder things have happened, I just was curious what all of you might think, I might send this in as a general question, I'd ne curious what he whole group on the app might think as well, really, I kmow I might ne wrong, I realize he whole thing might be statutory, I just thohght it kinda odd, you kmow? Many thanks....
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SGT Ted Carlin
Actually, being National Guard, when they drill on weekends and on Annual Duty, the feds do pick up the bill, though the states, to some extent pick up other parts. For instance they run and pay for a lot of the tab for armories and other facilities. And there are a lot of full time Guard members paid by the state, while other full timers are paid by the feds here days. Confusing. And these days National Guard personnel do qualify for some benefits if they were activated and ( big AND) were deployed to Afghanistan or Iraq (and probably to some areas we didn't know about). That happened post 9/11, though I believe the NG that were activated for Persian Gulf may also qualify if they were there long enough. Some NG troops ere activated but were used strictly in CONUS to relieve other Active Duty troops for overseas.or instance they took over gate-guard duty at an airfare base near me, so those personnel did not qualify, though many other units did deploy overseas at various times. The National Guard thing I am aware of from being first Army then National Guard afterwards.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
I follow, I do get your point, as I'd said, I was rather surprised when I'd found out they were both right...my notion was that if one was on active one day at all, regardless of how, during a Congressionally approved period, that one would basically VA qualify for at least the basic goodies...apparently, my notion was quite clearly naive and misguided to say the least...I just found their while problem rather considerably illuminating, that's all I'm saying, honest...I actually said to both of them, "Nah, nonsense, can't be....", needless to say, I gathered after looking into it, they were both right, and I was totally wrong...I gather that whole thing has been rather a major bone of contentious heartburn for quite some long while, for both Guard and Reserves, you know? As I'd said, surprising, to say the least, certainly....
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you just answered your own Question you did not complete. Not that you done anything wrong per say, but completion Is part of the rule. If you Hired on as a heavy equipment operator and never passed your Trial period would that give you a State certified heavy equipment Certificate? I think not.
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Maybe not called a Veteran but possibly still get veteran benefits, particularly disability. If the member had not witheld any information during enlistment and especially if the military can be found liable for the injury. For example the military did not de-ice the walkway and on the first day of basic training a recruit stepped off the bus, slipped and injured his back such that he became disabled, should incur a VA disability.
Whether or not you want to call them a veteran or not depends on the context. It is interesting for broken recruits.
Whether or not you want to call them a veteran or not depends on the context. It is interesting for broken recruits.
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...not until that soldier gets all that writing off of right arm! lol
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Here's something you should ask yourself... Do you really feel like you deserve to be called a veteran when you did nothing?
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PV2 Dsfdsfds Dsfdsfs
ask yourself, when someone puts there life on the line for you do they deserve some respect?
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I took the oath and shipped off to Parris Island. Training day 1, I cracked my right thigh bone. I hid it from my SDI for almost 2 weeks until med inspection and they saw the huge purple green bruise. It was x-rayed and I had an inch long crack in my right femur. I continued to train. I did the 3 mile runs, I even tested and passed my exit quals. On day 79 out of 91, they re-x-rayed it. The crack was now an inch and a half long. They discharged me due to the injury. I broke my F'n leg on Parris Island .. I appealed the discharge to my SDI, my Co. Commander, my BtN Commander (3rd Btn), and finally the base XO. They all told me the same thing. As far as I'm concerned, you are a Marine, but regs states that we have to send you home to heal... Come back and get your EGA... I trained with the best and passed all written and PT requirements. I trained for 79 days, thats 10 1/2 weeks out of the 13 to become a marine with a fractured thighbone.. My DD214 discharged me as PFC, not a Recruit... .. Am I a vet?
BTW, I still take that OATH seriously. To the end...
BTW, I still take that OATH seriously. To the end...
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