Posted on Aug 14, 2022
SGT OH-58D Armament/Electrical/Avionics Systems Repairer
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My friend is on orders to report on September 10th overseas, he just recently had a dental appointment because he’s been having pain and they said it’s because of his wisdom tooth, but they have no dates for him to get it pulled until after his report date so he just said he will wait until he is overseas. A week later he is having so bad of pain and jaw is swollen so he goes to the hospital and they let him know that the tooth has an infection so they give him some pain meds and some antibiotics and send him home. He follows with his dental clinic and they let him know they still won’t be able to get him a date until after his report date and the doctor is willing to right a letter supporting him to defer his orders for 30 days, he wants to know is the doctor letter good enough to submit with the 4187 for deferment of orders or does he need to obtain more documents and include them? He doesn’t want to be focus on trying to clear and putting in a 4187 that will probably get kicked back since the surgery isn’t major but the tooth is preventing him from doing daily functions and he is not trying to travel all the way across the world with an tooth infection and in pain.
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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You have your friend request to be referred to a dentist off post. There is no reason a person should have to wait a month to have an abscess tooth pulled. If the dental clinic gives any pushback, have them contact the patient advocate immediately.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
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SGT (Join to see) - So is dental having a scheduling problem or how they want to do pain control and the soldier disagreeing with their plan causing the issue? Rarely do you get general anesthesia for a tooth extraction and if a provider is recommending it, then that is the best course of action. At most the norm is sedation and that is 'not being put asleep.' Dental is major in the Army as it effects deployment.
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MAJ Byron Oyler I was thinking the same thing. Providers never recommend general anesthesia unless there is a really good reason for it. I'd hate to be the dentist trying to extract impacted molars with someone squirming around
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SSG Bill McCoy
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SGT (Join to see) - Few dentists will put anyone, "to sleep." Some use the same med used for colonoscopy; but most use nitrous oxide (laughing gas). For most people, lidocaine is sufficient and typically a person is pain free until the numbness ends.
The first two wisdom teeth I had pulled was when I made an appointment for pain. The dentist immediately pulled it and the one above or below it. A week later, the other two were pulled to prevent any further impaction. Both times, it was lidocaine. Normally, it's classified as, "minor surgery."
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I think the same for him he has a tooth that’s right under the nerve or I believe touching it and they don’t want to mess with it on postSFC (Verify To See)
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SSgt Christophe Murphy
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The friend could do all that hoops and hurdles mess with deferring orders or they could opt for a civilian place off post because it's causing issues and traveling with that is a non starter. I would go the off post route. It would be easier and faster.
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SSG Bill McCoy
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Agreed. Dental pain is VERY distracting ... real pain. Hard to believe any dentist would make anyone wait as long as the subject soldier. The pain after extraction is far less in any case; at least for impacted wisdom teeth. I'd get to the nearest civilian dentist, cost be damned.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
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There is also a health/safeth issue, flying with a tooth as such. This should be taken up by the doc. I know it is a problem because I faced it once while deployed to Kosovo. Has a tooth problem, went to Bondsteel to get it checked. Was asked how soon I was flying back, wasn't for a while, so the doc drilled it out and fixed it. He told me if it was in a certain time period I couldn't fly. Can't rmember the time frame.
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