Posted on Mar 21, 2018
Can I put Satanist as my religious preference on my dog tags?
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I have seen many things on (DOG TAGS) Identifications tags, you can put whatever your ass can handle and whatever negative attention you can stand. Sometimes you have to ask yourself, do you need negative attention just for shits and giggles or are there more important things to deal with.
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Ashlynn Messer
i want to join the Coast Guard academy after i'm done with high school, and i was looking into the tags, can you just leave the "religion" part blank?
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If you are just being a prankster then get a set of tags for that purpose. But if you are joking have a set you will wear at all other times. If you are joking, would it be worth it to embarrass / humiliate your NOK or fellow soldiers if you took one and you had the joke set on you?
FWIT; I could care less what religion you associate with. I only hope you would not do anything that would discredit your family, your unit, or yourself - just for the sake of being able to put whatever you want on your tags.
FWIT; I could care less what religion you associate with. I only hope you would not do anything that would discredit your family, your unit, or yourself - just for the sake of being able to put whatever you want on your tags.
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PV2 Brunmeier,
The current Army policy governing the wear and appearance of identification tags is AR 600-8-14. As such, there is no defined list of "approved religions," as I assume this would set the precedent that the US Army's stance is to support one over the other.
Therefore, I will say you can, but you should also ensure that you go through your S1 or Orderly Room to update your ERB to reflect what is on your tags, as per the AR:
(4) Line 4. Religious preference. Spell this out when possible (the example shown in figures 2–1 and 2–2 is used to set forth a pattern for guidance). If the religious preference is incorrect, the Soldier must update the personnel system of record.
Personally, my records and my tags read: Atheist. For a year or so when I was a Specialist, they read "Jedi."
Bottom line is that the Army and the government cannot tell you what to believe, nor should they try. This is reflected in the lack of any specific guidance governing what religion can or cannot go on your dog tags.
Good luck.
The current Army policy governing the wear and appearance of identification tags is AR 600-8-14. As such, there is no defined list of "approved religions," as I assume this would set the precedent that the US Army's stance is to support one over the other.
Therefore, I will say you can, but you should also ensure that you go through your S1 or Orderly Room to update your ERB to reflect what is on your tags, as per the AR:
(4) Line 4. Religious preference. Spell this out when possible (the example shown in figures 2–1 and 2–2 is used to set forth a pattern for guidance). If the religious preference is incorrect, the Soldier must update the personnel system of record.
Personally, my records and my tags read: Atheist. For a year or so when I was a Specialist, they read "Jedi."
Bottom line is that the Army and the government cannot tell you what to believe, nor should they try. This is reflected in the lack of any specific guidance governing what religion can or cannot go on your dog tags.
Good luck.
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Funny joke, clickbait, whatever. I guess you could get a set with whatever you want on it. Good luck with a Chaplain to administer your Last Rights should the need arise, though. I guess your pals could douse you in MOGAS and torch you while still breathing, if that would bring you comfort.
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You can put anything. I actually had a lot of fun getting all of my privates to put fun stuff as their religions once (e.g. O.G., Jedi Master, Sith Lord, Pastafarian). My last set of dog tags made at SRP said "Badass" as my religion. The government cannot set boundaries as to what is and is not a religion.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
LCpl Shane Couch - bud, it crossed my mind... But If someone really wants to steal my identity they can have it lol. I'm in debt up to my eyeballs and I don't imagine that anyone can do anything with it anyways.
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LCpl Shane Couch
SGT Joseph Gunderson - I hear that! But I have had my identity stolen more than once. The second time was after I finally got close to being out of debt. It just kills you that much more when it happens.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
LCpl Shane Couch - Yeah. I get that... I really think that the world will have fallen apart and we will be using bottle caps as currency before I get that far though lol
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CPT Lawrence Cable
SSG Jon Hill - Like I said, I have a lot of respect for most that I've met. Their informal channels with higher can often get things accomplished faster than though channels, such as get a bunch of basic trainees in old WWII barracks sleeping bags in the middle of a power outage brought on by an Ice Storm. Then they need to have enough of a sense of humor to deal with the kind of people that join the service.
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If you truly believe in that religion put it on there. Our predecessors didn't fight wars so the government could dictate what religion you were allowed to put on your dog tags. I wouldn't recommend ever putting any jokes on your tags or anything like that but if you can answer that yes that's my actual religion no one will ever be able to do anything more than give you a hard time over it.
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Funny that I was the '666th' view on this post...
Anyway... the whole reason for having a religious preference listed on your dog tags is so if you get killed or significantly wounded/ likely dying in combat or in the field, whatever personnel may be present-- a chaplain is best or even just your buddies-- can honor what 'last rites' would traditionally be associated with that religion to the best of their understanding. (I air-quote 'last rites' because I know Catholics have them-- basically prayers you say over someone you know to be dying before they actually die. I don't personally know if other religions have something like that.)
If you want to do it as a joke-- I would seriously think twice about it. While no one would ever have to know or care, it is disrespectful to all of those who have had a 'need' for their religious preference to be known in that type of environment (basically those that have died for your right to be an a**hole) to make light of the purpose for stating a religious preference on dog tags.
If you are legitimately a Satanist-- okay. Go for it.
If you are an atheist-- say that. Even if you are among who I call the 'militant atheists' who thinks religious people are stupid for being so and claim that the sight of any symbol of religion is somehow harmful to you or violating your rights to the point of filing lawsuits with the ACLU to have WWI memorials torn down if they depict a cross-- just say 'atheist'. Insulting others' religions just because you don't happen to believe in them is likewise disrespectful.
(Not attributing the preceding paragraphs to you necessarily... more of an 'if the shoe fits' thing.)
Anyway... the whole reason for having a religious preference listed on your dog tags is so if you get killed or significantly wounded/ likely dying in combat or in the field, whatever personnel may be present-- a chaplain is best or even just your buddies-- can honor what 'last rites' would traditionally be associated with that religion to the best of their understanding. (I air-quote 'last rites' because I know Catholics have them-- basically prayers you say over someone you know to be dying before they actually die. I don't personally know if other religions have something like that.)
If you want to do it as a joke-- I would seriously think twice about it. While no one would ever have to know or care, it is disrespectful to all of those who have had a 'need' for their religious preference to be known in that type of environment (basically those that have died for your right to be an a**hole) to make light of the purpose for stating a religious preference on dog tags.
If you are legitimately a Satanist-- okay. Go for it.
If you are an atheist-- say that. Even if you are among who I call the 'militant atheists' who thinks religious people are stupid for being so and claim that the sight of any symbol of religion is somehow harmful to you or violating your rights to the point of filing lawsuits with the ACLU to have WWI memorials torn down if they depict a cross-- just say 'atheist'. Insulting others' religions just because you don't happen to believe in them is likewise disrespectful.
(Not attributing the preceding paragraphs to you necessarily... more of an 'if the shoe fits' thing.)
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Disrespectful to others? I call bullshit.
LCDR (Join to see)
That's your opinion to which you are certainly entitled. Mine is that disparaging, insulting, or mocking religion simply because you don't believe in it is disrespectful an certainly not 'tolerant'. My suggestion was from the live-and-let-live philosophy of true tolerance.
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You can.
I would not recommend it.
Once discovered, you are sure to get blowback.
I would not recommend it.
Once discovered, you are sure to get blowback.
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1SG (Join to see)
CWO3 (Join to see) - What I was referring to in my comment on your post was echoing and endorsing what appears to be your view - that the OP here is trolling all of us for internet points.
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CWO3 (Join to see)
1SG (Join to see) - He's trolling for something for sure. I'm not as religious as I should be, but his post was screaming for attention IMO. Thanks and best wishes.
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MAJ James Woods
Those two self identification labels are actually recognized by the military; whereas, I don't think Satanic has. Either way, nothing good will come from any Soldier putting it on their official dog tags.
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LCpl Shane Couch
When I got my first set they asked my religious preference and I got sh1t for saying Asatru (a form of paganism) and ended up with "non religious" designated on my tags. That being said, my meat tags are correct.
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Neil Henson
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