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My unit is telling me that the AGSU is ONLY for daily wear and not for formal occasions such as promotion boards. From what I have read in the regulations I believe this is false, but I can't find proof or a supposed MILPER message to confirm or deny what my COC is saying.
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The intent of the AGSU is to be for daily wear and the ASU is to be for formal occasions. That being said, if the LOI/MOI for Promotion Boards state SMs are to wear the ASU...then that is what you wear.
AR 670-1 states in Chapter 11, 12 and 13 (sections 11-3, 12-3 and 13-3) for wearing of the ASU, there are some key phrases that needs to be paid attention to. And that is: "unless otherwise directed
by the commander" and "When designated by the host of an event."
So, if the President of the Promotion Boards give guidance that ASUs will be worn at the Board, then ASU is what will be worn.
AR 670-1 states in Chapter 11, 12 and 13 (sections 11-3, 12-3 and 13-3) for wearing of the ASU, there are some key phrases that needs to be paid attention to. And that is: "unless otherwise directed
by the commander" and "When designated by the host of an event."
So, if the President of the Promotion Boards give guidance that ASUs will be worn at the Board, then ASU is what will be worn.
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CPT (Join to see)
Yep it depends…… so welcome to the Army and we now share the pains of the Marines.
The hole that needs to be closed is that I understand ASUs are not TRADOC issued.
So now there’s a whole new process in the Army that needs to be just the way we do things and that is new soldiers actually using their uniform allowance to acquire ASUs
I can see a SGT board let AGSU be ok but then I could see an E6 board check for high speeds with an ASU requirement
The hole that needs to be closed is that I understand ASUs are not TRADOC issued.
So now there’s a whole new process in the Army that needs to be just the way we do things and that is new soldiers actually using their uniform allowance to acquire ASUs
I can see a SGT board let AGSU be ok but then I could see an E6 board check for high speeds with an ASU requirement
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MSG (Join to see) and CPT (Join to see) have good info and points.
An issue to be recognized is new Soldiers are not receiving the ASU during IET and are only receiving the AGSU. Some are not even receiving all of their accoutrements for said AGSU due to apparent supply issues and are being told their units will square them away.
Then you have some units losing it over new joe showing up in their AGSU when the commander put out ASU's and poor snuffy doesn't know what he did wrong. Heck my new private can't even order anything for his AGSU through supply since we don't have any of it, Guard problems.
An issue to be recognized is new Soldiers are not receiving the ASU during IET and are only receiving the AGSU. Some are not even receiving all of their accoutrements for said AGSU due to apparent supply issues and are being told their units will square them away.
Then you have some units losing it over new joe showing up in their AGSU when the commander put out ASU's and poor snuffy doesn't know what he did wrong. Heck my new private can't even order anything for his AGSU through supply since we don't have any of it, Guard problems.
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MSG Thomas Currie
The Army goes through some variation of this nonsense every time they change any of the uniforms that people actually wear. The Army publishes a Mandatory Possession Date for the new uniform and a last date to wear the old uniform -- which always leaves a period when both uniforms are authorized but which also leaves many individuals in an awkward position.
1) How about the soldier who will be getting out BEFORE the mandatory possession date? They have no requirement to ever own the new uniform, but are going to face pressure to spend the money to buy one anyway.
2) Soldiers who attend IET prior to the Mandatory Possession Date might be issued the old uniform even through the new uniform is already authorized and being worn elsewhere. These soldiers will be forced spend money to buy the new uniform long before their old uniform is worn out. And, no, the uniform allowance won't really cover the cost. (If it's the IET duty uniform, some IET soldiers will be issued two old uniforms and two new uniforms instead of four of the either uniform).
1) How about the soldier who will be getting out BEFORE the mandatory possession date? They have no requirement to ever own the new uniform, but are going to face pressure to spend the money to buy one anyway.
2) Soldiers who attend IET prior to the Mandatory Possession Date might be issued the old uniform even through the new uniform is already authorized and being worn elsewhere. These soldiers will be forced spend money to buy the new uniform long before their old uniform is worn out. And, no, the uniform allowance won't really cover the cost. (If it's the IET duty uniform, some IET soldiers will be issued two old uniforms and two new uniforms instead of four of the either uniform).
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Things gradually changes when Uniform charges are ongoing. You have the old and new and during the middle part you will have both allowed and to avoid mismatched craziness the Unit may lean towards one more than the other to reinforce uniformity. Just follow your local guidance but it would help to understand the original context of why you were asking.
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