Posted on Feb 14, 2021
Can senior NCO’s make soldiers drive from home to a duty during harsh conditions such as frozen roads?
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Is there a regulation on this kind of stuff. I understand that a duty must be preformed such as CQ and Staff Duty. However in my mind it’s very dangerous to have soldiers who live 15+ minutes away from post to preform such duties when they can have someone who lives on base preform it. And have their duties switched up. Is there any regulation on this.
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If the duty roster is kept properly, other than short notice there is no harm in being tapped for duty early. This would move you to the bottom of the list leaving the SM who missed duty at the top. The real suck of living on post in the barracks are the "hey you" detail's!
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If there is a hazardous road - weather condition, The Post is usually closed. That means ALL Civilian Employees are off. I was stationed in Germany & we had a few closures.
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You do what you have to do. This corporate attitude that as infected the military has to go. It’s culturally poisonous. If your SL, TL, PSG says to do something suck it up and do it.
That said.
The attitude of always looking out for oneself has developed out of self preservation from the junior enlisted ranks. Many NCOs and Officers today only think about completing a task, and how it makes them look and they treat their Junior soldiers as if they are expendable. It’s incumbent on your Squad Leader or Team Leader to take into consideration the risks to the members of his unit, vs the rewards for the mission and issue direction accordingly, and be prepared to take the heat round from higher if he has to oppose what they want for the good of his subordinates.
That said.
The attitude of always looking out for oneself has developed out of self preservation from the junior enlisted ranks. Many NCOs and Officers today only think about completing a task, and how it makes them look and they treat their Junior soldiers as if they are expendable. It’s incumbent on your Squad Leader or Team Leader to take into consideration the risks to the members of his unit, vs the rewards for the mission and issue direction accordingly, and be prepared to take the heat round from higher if he has to oppose what they want for the good of his subordinates.
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That's an easy question with an easy answer. If the soldier can't make it to duty because of how bad the weather is, ask for a volunteer to take his place and give the replacement an incentive (3 day weekend, etc.) for volunteering. The soldier that can't make it will just pull the replacement's duty next time he or she has it.
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It's the "new and improved" Army and it's the world we live in now... everyone complains about something.
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha - It's the "new and improved" Army and it's the world we live in now... everyone complains about something.
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
SFC (Join to see) - of course... the new and improved Democratic National Socialist Republic... aka ... the new Nazi Reich.
New and Improved Soldiers means the people et on their knees to the dictates of those who don't have the power to put U.S. on our knees.
New and improved means our soldiers are just window dressing?
New and improved means our soldiers are allowed freedom of choice as to what they will do as soldiers?
New and improved means our GENERALS are working for our enemies... as well as our Legislators, and Governors, and PRESIDENT?
That road is the path to communist dictatorship.
Are you also working for China, Russia, Japan, Britain, and all the other Dctators of the World... as you get on your knees to the dictates of your Public SERVANTS ... SWORN TO NEVER AID AN ENEMY, WAGE WAR AGAINST U.S., GIVE AID OR COMFORT TO AN ENEMY FOR ANY REASON... because that is high treason punishable by hanging until dead?
tight. New Army?
--> NEW COUNTRY.
GET ON YOUR KNEES TO THE RULERS OF THE WORLD... AS DICTATED BY YOUR SERVANTS ... CLAIMING TO BE PART OF THE NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY OF ADOLF HITLER. >(
WELCOME TO THE NEW ... UNITED REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF IMPERIAL AMERICA...
acronym? R.U.S.S.I.A. >(
New and Improved Soldiers means the people et on their knees to the dictates of those who don't have the power to put U.S. on our knees.
New and improved means our soldiers are just window dressing?
New and improved means our soldiers are allowed freedom of choice as to what they will do as soldiers?
New and improved means our GENERALS are working for our enemies... as well as our Legislators, and Governors, and PRESIDENT?
That road is the path to communist dictatorship.
Are you also working for China, Russia, Japan, Britain, and all the other Dctators of the World... as you get on your knees to the dictates of your Public SERVANTS ... SWORN TO NEVER AID AN ENEMY, WAGE WAR AGAINST U.S., GIVE AID OR COMFORT TO AN ENEMY FOR ANY REASON... because that is high treason punishable by hanging until dead?
tight. New Army?
--> NEW COUNTRY.
GET ON YOUR KNEES TO THE RULERS OF THE WORLD... AS DICTATED BY YOUR SERVANTS ... CLAIMING TO BE PART OF THE NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY OF ADOLF HITLER. >(
WELCOME TO THE NEW ... UNITED REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF IMPERIAL AMERICA...
acronym? R.U.S.S.I.A. >(
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SSG(P) Danielle Birtha
hmmm... censorship... even RP has gone Nazi.
yeah... look it up:
What is the origin of the word Nazi?
Answer: National socialism...in German NAtional soZIalist.
Naso isn't very intimidating ;)
... and yes... the Nazis consider that word to be an Insult.
WE the people coined that word ;)
Censored out: If you want to be oppressed ... go to an already oppressed Country...
WE THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT THAT IN OUR NATION.
And Sir, I don't get on my knees to your demands that the Constitution no longer applies... because the Nazis say so.
The UCMJ is very concise in how our soldiers will conduct themselves...
It is STILL the Law of the U.S. Military.
UNLESS THE MILITARY AND CONGRESS DECIDE IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO ALLOW SOLDIERS DO AS THEY DAMN WELL PLEASE >(
DUTY - HONOR - COUNTRY
YOU SIR... ARE A DISGRACE TO THAT UNIFORM AND THIS NATION...
THAT YOU SWORE TO PROTECT... IMO...
IF YOU BELIEVE WE THE PEOPLE MUST GIVE UP THE LIFE WE THE PEOPLE WANT... BECAUSE DICTATOR PSYCHOPATH MEGALOMANIAC CONTROL FREAK PUBLIC SERVANTS SAY SO >(
I GET ON MY KNEES TO THE CONSTITION... AND MY GOD.
NOT KINGS OR DICTATORS OR MY SERVANT EMPLOYEES >(
YOU CAN TAKE MY FREEDOM WHEN AFTER I AM DEAD.
I WILL FIGHT TO MY LAST BREATH TO PRESERVE THAT FREEDOM.
yeah... look it up:
What is the origin of the word Nazi?
Answer: National socialism...in German NAtional soZIalist.
Naso isn't very intimidating ;)
... and yes... the Nazis consider that word to be an Insult.
WE the people coined that word ;)
Censored out: If you want to be oppressed ... go to an already oppressed Country...
WE THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT THAT IN OUR NATION.
And Sir, I don't get on my knees to your demands that the Constitution no longer applies... because the Nazis say so.
The UCMJ is very concise in how our soldiers will conduct themselves...
It is STILL the Law of the U.S. Military.
UNLESS THE MILITARY AND CONGRESS DECIDE IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO ALLOW SOLDIERS DO AS THEY DAMN WELL PLEASE >(
DUTY - HONOR - COUNTRY
YOU SIR... ARE A DISGRACE TO THAT UNIFORM AND THIS NATION...
THAT YOU SWORE TO PROTECT... IMO...
IF YOU BELIEVE WE THE PEOPLE MUST GIVE UP THE LIFE WE THE PEOPLE WANT... BECAUSE DICTATOR PSYCHOPATH MEGALOMANIAC CONTROL FREAK PUBLIC SERVANTS SAY SO >(
I GET ON MY KNEES TO THE CONSTITION... AND MY GOD.
NOT KINGS OR DICTATORS OR MY SERVANT EMPLOYEES >(
YOU CAN TAKE MY FREEDOM WHEN AFTER I AM DEAD.
I WILL FIGHT TO MY LAST BREATH TO PRESERVE THAT FREEDOM.
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During inclement weather the Command has protocols it follows for the safety of the soldiers, your still responsible for calling in and giving them your status
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Another case off poor planning. Seldom in the States do es the weatherman miss reall bad weather coming in. So being alert, cunning, and sly drive in ahead of weather and sleep on post. I had OD one cold snowy nigh in Germany snowed all day and night. (6 inches on top of mycar between midnight and 0600 measured)
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Do you call off the war because of bad weather? This may be old school thinking but, suck it up! Living off base is a priveledge that can be pulled any time. Commands can "pull the pass " for many reasons. I have driven through some really bad stuff just to get to morning formation only to be told go home. In upstate new York, I shoveled to get to my car and had to shovel to get back to my house. Weather happens. In today's world it is rarely a surprise. I had a guy working for me once (civilian time) who called me to tell me he wouldn't be able to come to work the next day. Not a snowflake had fallen yet despite the forcast for the next day. I didn't accept it. He tried to call in sick the next morning so I asked for a DR. note. He was pissed. I ended up getting behind him in traffic and followed him to the store. Roads weren't as bad as predicted. (I fired him later that day for the extremely nasty voicemail he left me. Lol)
Bottom line is, the Armed services don't stop because of weather. Dress accordingly and do your duty.
Bottom line is, the Armed services don't stop because of weather. Dress accordingly and do your duty.
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It's called leadership And taking responsibility. In the military Whenever there's a job to be done Has to say to him or herself, "Is this mission worth dying over?" It's not just combat, His training, And every day jobs. Safety is a big part of every military mission. The senior NCO In this scenario house to make the decision. If he or she is wrong Then the Higher ups will have to deal with it. But you better damn well make sure you're in the right Before you disobey in order.
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If that was the case of switching than the hospital would only have the barracks Soldiers work during red or black road conditions every time.
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