Posted on Nov 8, 2014
TSgt Joshua Copeland
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Barksdale just got a new Command Chief for the Bomb Wing a few months ago.

I have to say, I have never see a rack this large on a non-AFSOC type guy and even then, I think he has them topped.

My first reaction was "holy ribbon rack batman!!"
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Cpl Jeff N.
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The Air Force should be embarrased that somoene can have a billboard like that. I am sure he has entries in his service record book for everyone of these but the Air Force should really wonder how someone can amass that many awards (medals and ribbons).

By way of comparison, Chesty Puller, one of the most decorated Marines in the history of the Corps had 27 ribbons. He fought in Nicaragua and Haiti, during the Banana Wars, served during World War I, World War II (5 Campaigns in the Pacific) and Korea (Chosin). He was awarded 5 Navy Crosses, a Silver Star and Bronze Star w/V. This guy makes Puller look like a boot.

My Dad was a career Chief Master Sergeant in the Air Force, served 27 years and two tours in Vietnam and doesn't have half the awards of this guy. I know some might say different era's, differnet times. My retort would be that they were times when awards were bestowed with a little more thought and not so easily.
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MSgt Aerospace Maintenance
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I agree somewhat with you. My Grandfather served in Vietnam with the 1st Cavalry and he left the service with 4 ribbons. I have been in the Air Force for six years and have 14 ribbons. I haven't been to Iraq or Afghanistan(stupid AWACS).
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Cpl Jeff N.
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Maj Chris Nelson. I did not say you should be embarrased about your service to your country in the Air Force. The embarrasment was over the awards/decorations process int he Air Force. As I mentioned my Dad was career Air Force, two tours in Vietnam, worked in the security service all the way to the NSA and had maybe 4 rows of ribbons.

I used Chesty Puller as an example of someone that served a very long career and was engaged in significant and extensive combat operations for comparison and contrasting.

The process of awards and decorations starts to look more like a process to make people feel good about what they do rather than recognizing true accomplishment in the Armed Forces.
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SSgt Michael Cox
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It isn't just the Air Force almost all awards cross to other branches. So every branch has about the same amount.
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I agree with Cpl Jeff N. in the respect that the level of entitlement to awards and decorations needs to be put in check. The original intent of these awards was to award warriors on the battlefield. I'm not saying clerks, cooks and other support personnel shouldn't be recognized but when those folks have more decorations than a Japanese Admiral something is wrong.
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COL Ted Mc
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The picture is a bit unclear but maybe someone can help me out here.

Is the USAF "I Graduated From Basic Training" Ribbon on the bottom row or on the next to bottom row?

I don't doubt the gentleman's entitlement to all of those gongs, where I start to question matters is when I see this gentleman with 12 rows of awards while General Patton had only seven. That's when I start thinking that "just maybe" there are a "few" too many awards/decorations being handed out.
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Cpl Mark McMiller
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My brother retired from the Air Force. I think he has all of those same ribbons on the bottom five rows that he got in Air Force recruit training. I know that's an exaggeration but, seriously, if I remember correctly, he got two or three ribbons just for getting through Air Force recruit training. My other brother, who is a retired Marine Corps colonel, and I still give him a hard time about it. But, hey, that's what brothers are for. ;)
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Cpl Mark McMiller
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Holy smokes! AF Marksmanship is not hitting the toilet seat while peeing? LOL
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Cpl Mark McMiller
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Looks like fun. Thanks.
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MSgt Aerospace Maintenance
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You don't earn the GWOT-S medal until you get to your operational unit.(Usually)
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SSG Multichannel Transmission Systems Operator/Maintainer
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I think it should be allowed, but not required. For DA Photos, boards, etc. you should only wear your top 6.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
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Big blue requires all on the service dress.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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And all or none on the other uniforms.
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SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM
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Why do you feel that way?
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM - Because that's what the regulation said at the time, when it was all or none. It's changed sometime in the past 8 years since this was first posted.
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SSG John Erny
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Wow
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LTC Stephen C.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland, wear what you're authorized to wear.
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SGT Greg Gold
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Part of the issue is the Air Force just has has too many individual and unit awards. Many of them are awarded for right place, right time, and require no more than just showing up for work to qualify for. On that Command Chief's uniform are about 14 ribbons that don't exist in any of the other armed services. By don't exist I mean that none of the other services have an award for what the AF awards theirs for. There are two Army awards on his uniform as well. Take those awards away and that rack starts to look a lot more like other senior NCO racks I'm used to seeing.

I'm not knocking anyone's career choice or their achievements. All I'm saying is the AF lays it on a little thick.
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SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM
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Especially in their dining facility!
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PVT Director Afghan Operations Grp
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Here is the BLUF....HALF of his ribbon rack has to do with leadership.
Picture this.... If I had a ribbon for every MCI or non-participatory school... I would have ribbons over my shoulder.
I already have 25 ribbons on my rack...so I am quite stacked....but over 25 years....yes....I would not expect anything less. Some have stars and some have oak clusters....but beside the point... I have zero logic to pass on.
I do know that after review....that the lower half of these ribbons are for (marksmanship, leadership, being present to formation, and just basic air force attendance). So if we really tally what this dude really has...he is only wearing a tiny portion of what is earned versus what a serviceman is required to do on a daily basis.
As a former United States Marine...I think that there is a distinct line between what you do as it is required of you versus what is above and beyond your rank and file.

Overall.,,, I don't agree with the USAF awards process...but...it is a sister service and well...they need something to feel good about...because they are the...'everyone gets a trophy' service component.
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MSgt John McDowell
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I'm sure there is a time and place for the full rack. The Service Dress Jacket is a good choice, but for day to day Airman have the option to wear all some or none on their duty uniform. when I would wear Class B blues, (shirt and pant) I only wore medals ribbons in which were awarded in citation. At some bases the Wing Commander allowed wear of name tag and qualification badge only if desired.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
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MSgt John McDowell, shortly after you retired Big Blue changed the rules and dropped the "some" option from both the service and service dress uniforms. It is now "all" on service dress and "all or none" on the service uniform. In face the only required items on the service uniform is the nametag, rank, and aero, space, cyber wings and chaplain badge.
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PVT Director Afghan Operations Grp
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Do not expect a single ounce or morsel of respect for wearing a half assed uniform while on duty or off duty... As a former NCO..... I wear my awards because that is the way they are supposed to be worn on a military uniform.

I don't give three shits what some air force academy or West Point General say. Be professional and always wear your awards to represent yourself as a valid and honorable member of the US military.
Generals and senior Enlisted leaders who advise otherwise....well...they are just lazy turds who deserve only the respect of the rank...but not as the person wearing it.
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It looks as if this is an official photo for his OMPF. I think for that purpose, wearing all authorized ribbons, badges, and other devices is appropriate. This is the photo that will be seen by the promotion board. If day-to-day duties require the wear of a dress uniform, however, it may be best to go with a less. Not for the sake of appearance, but simply for the sake of being functional. Those ribbons aren't cheap and that's an awful lot of surface area to get caught on something.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
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CW3 (Join to see) all ribbons are required by AF regs. There is no option to wear only some.
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CW3 Air Ambulance Pilot
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Wasn't aware that it was a requirement in the USAF. I definitely never heard of it being a requirement in the Army. We can wear the minimum, if we choose. Sorry to hear that, guys. Must cost a fortune!
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PVT Director Afghan Operations Grp
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Chief.. Either you go hard or go home.... Enuff with the " I didn't know" crap. Be a consummate professional or get out. And leave the profession to professionals.
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Someone better tell this dude to "go hard or go home". Get on it, Steve
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He's already an E-9...I doubt a promotion board is in his future.
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