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How is it possible to be rated at 0% disabled, yet still be medically separated?
Posted 11 y ago
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I can give you general overview which may help in understanding the difference.
The Military can medically separate you if you are no longer medically qualified to serve. The VA bases the rating tables on the 'average ability to earn'. The difference between the two is that while you may be medically unable to serve in the military, that doesn't necessarily preclude the 'average persons ability to earn'. Very different definitions.
As far as a 0% rating (specifically), the VA has determined that you do have the disability AND that the disability is Service Connected but is not severe enough to entitle monetary compensation. Since you are now service connected, should the disability increase in severity, you can apply for an increased rating (actually a reevaluation of the rating).
Not all disabilities start at 10%, nor do they all go to 100%. You can look up your specific disability in 38CFR to see the actual rating table and the medical requirements for each level authorized under that disability.
Hope this helps in understanding the differences.
The Military can medically separate you if you are no longer medically qualified to serve. The VA bases the rating tables on the 'average ability to earn'. The difference between the two is that while you may be medically unable to serve in the military, that doesn't necessarily preclude the 'average persons ability to earn'. Very different definitions.
As far as a 0% rating (specifically), the VA has determined that you do have the disability AND that the disability is Service Connected but is not severe enough to entitle monetary compensation. Since you are now service connected, should the disability increase in severity, you can apply for an increased rating (actually a reevaluation of the rating).
Not all disabilities start at 10%, nor do they all go to 100%. You can look up your specific disability in 38CFR to see the actual rating table and the medical requirements for each level authorized under that disability.
Hope this helps in understanding the differences.
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SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS
MSG Huffman,
What you depict in your response is what I have experienced. I have several 0% disabilities. The only good news is they are service connected and acknowledged by the VA. Consequently you are able to have these conditions evaluated and if warranted an increase may be requested through a request for reconsideration.
If you find no other assistance don't forget Veterans service organizations such as the VFW, DAV, and Wounded Warrior Program, to name a few, will assist at no charge any veterans claim.
What you depict in your response is what I have experienced. I have several 0% disabilities. The only good news is they are service connected and acknowledged by the VA. Consequently you are able to have these conditions evaluated and if warranted an increase may be requested through a request for reconsideration.
If you find no other assistance don't forget Veterans service organizations such as the VFW, DAV, and Wounded Warrior Program, to name a few, will assist at no charge any veterans claim.
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MSG Wade Huffman
SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS , you can also find a Veterans Service Officer at this link (also, all services free of charge).
http://nacvso.org/find-a-service-officer/
http://nacvso.org/find-a-service-officer/
Find a Service Officer | NACVSO
To find your local Service Officer, select your state from the list below. You will be redirected to the appropriate page if it is available.
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SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS
MSG Huffman,
Thank you. I have saved the link you shared to my favorites. Great piece of information.
SFC Joseph M. Finck USA (Ret)
Thank you. I have saved the link you shared to my favorites. Great piece of information.
SFC Joseph M. Finck USA (Ret)
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SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS If you need any assistance in any way - let me know. Since I'm a Service Officer for the VFW I will reach out and contact someone to assist you - without hesitation. BTW - remember this, every Veteran Service Organization that has Service Officers provides that service for free and you DO NOT have to be a member of that organization to get that help.
Welcome home.
Welcome home.
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I know alot of folks that have 0%'s on specific injuries. While the issue might not be bad now, it could get worse and is pre-vetted that it is service connect.
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CPO Ed Ball
You're absolutely correct, those conditions caused by the military may very well get worse. Additionally, what we look for in addition to those conditions that are currently rated, are what is referred to as secondary conditions that may arise. i.e., Service Connected Diabetes Mellitus Type II that affects kidneys, liver, hypertension, cardio vascular, which with a medical opinion stating the Diabetes caused/aggravated the additional problems can be rated even several years after being discharged. Another common effect that is overlooked is arthritis that shows up on Xrays. When in doubt contact your state/county veterans service officer.
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There are plenty of VA workers here on RallyPoint. Use the advance search and you should be able to find them. I will try to find some and link them up with you.
CPO Ed Ball MSG Wade Huffman are a few that may be able to at least point you in the right direction.
CPO Ed Ball MSG Wade Huffman are a few that may be able to at least point you in the right direction.
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Also, if you need to file a claim, you local D.A.V. office should have someone there that can help or connect with the nearest Service Officer that can.
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MSG Huffman,
I totally agree with your comments. I for one had 10 service-connected disabilities when I retired and I couldn't believe it. But my supervisor the CADVSO at San Diego informed me the same thing you just mention. Sergeant Major Arthur Rodrigues, who was an attorney that worked for CAVFW for over 40 years told me the exact same thing you did. Eventually over time my disabilities didn't get any better. Now I'm 90% with PT since I retired in 2010. Yes those 10 disabilities and another 8 more service-connected disabilities put me where I am now. James
I totally agree with your comments. I for one had 10 service-connected disabilities when I retired and I couldn't believe it. But my supervisor the CADVSO at San Diego informed me the same thing you just mention. Sergeant Major Arthur Rodrigues, who was an attorney that worked for CAVFW for over 40 years told me the exact same thing you did. Eventually over time my disabilities didn't get any better. Now I'm 90% with PT since I retired in 2010. Yes those 10 disabilities and another 8 more service-connected disabilities put me where I am now. James
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How is it possible to be rated at 0% and be medically discharge? The ratings that the PEB Boards gives to veterans is not the same as the RVSR's at the VA. 0% means it's a non-compensable rating that you will not receive any payments for your disabilities because the VA feels that you can work and have substantial gainful employment. If you have multiple disabilities that are at 0%, the VA may grant you a Compensable rating of 10%, which is payable. There are two distinct ways that a veteran files for disabilities. The first one is compensable disabilities, in other words your disability has an average earning impairment with an earning capacity by law. The other is non-compensable, you have disabilities that won't interfere with you earning capacity for substantial gainful employment. As you get older these non-compensable disabilities will get worse and may effect your employment. I hope this helps. If not go to http://www.va.gov/pubs. the law is there to read. James K.
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The VA and military are two separate entities. The VA recognizes you have a disability but it isn't sever enough to get a rating above 0 percent. On the other hand the military feels you are no longer able to complete the task do to your disability. You can make a claim with the military and they can pay you for the disability. But it looks like the VA said no
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A disability is service connected condition. you lost a arm while serving. Medically discharged may be due to a physical or mental issue that is not service connected, and the person is not deemed to be able to perform the tasks required to serve. My best guess,
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It is deemed service connected but they won't pay you for it, however if the condition worsens you can always have it re-evaluated and the percentage increased.
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SGT Mitch McKinley
Actually, they do pay you. They gave a severance pay package on the way out the door.
But they got it all back. My VA disability has been going back to the DA for the past 10 years.
But they got it all back. My VA disability has been going back to the DA for the past 10 years.
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CPO Ed Ball
I firmly believe Congress should take away severance pay by DOD for that exact same reason. Once a veteran files a VA disability claim, based on the medical evidence that it did in fact happen or was incurred on active duty, the severance pay then becomes an indebtedness to the government upon award of any percentage through the VA. If the DOD awards 10% disability, and that's what the severance pay is based on, the VA may award 30% disability, but the government takes away 10% per month until the severance is paid back to the government. Unreal!
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