Posted on May 9, 2020
Can the VA refuse to treat a 100% service-connected veteran citing their case as "too complex," and also refuse to outsource them for care?
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I have a pretty 'complicated' medical case but the VA continues to refuse at times to even consult with me despite internal VA referrals for the consults. They also refuse to refer me to anyone who possibly CAN help-- or the Mission Act options don't have any providers for the care needed within hours of me. Then they refuse to cover many of the meds that outside specialists suggest, costing me >$3,000 per year out-of-pocket. Is this OK at any level and would anyone have any suggestions for how to get the needed care? This way preceeded COVID-19 issues but continues despite it. I've been told the doctors won't even agree to a telehealth or video health consult at the VA across a few departments and programs. I'd already involved a senator's office a few years back and have made almost no progress. Help, please?
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I was a military and a VA physician over my 40 plus years in medicine. In the military I could provide what care the patient needed provided it was available at all. In the VA, while they theoretically couldn’t refuse care to any veteran, the beurocracy sometimes made it a tedious process and different areas of the country are different as well. Stay persistent and good luck
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Go congressional. If your Congress person puts in an inquiry, all things stop and it's addressed. Don't wait...they'll deny until we die...go on the offensive use everything you can!
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Civilians don't give a shit.
The Last of the Light Brigade
There were thirty million English who talked of England's might,
There were twenty broken troopers who lacked a bed for the night.
They had neither food nor money, they had neither service nor trade;
They were only shiftless soldiers, the last of the Light Brigade.
They felt that life was fleeting; they knew not that art was long,
That though they were dying of famine, they lived in deathless song.
They asked for a little money to keep the wolf from the door;
And the thirty million English sent twenty pounds and four !
They laid their heads together that were scarred and lined and grey;
Keen were the Russian sabres, but want was keener than they;
And an old Troop-Sergeant muttered, "Let us go to the man who writes
The things on Balaclava the kiddies at school recites."
They went without bands or colours, a regiment ten-file strong,
To look for the Master-singer who had crowned them all in his song;
And, waiting his servant's order, by the garden gate they stayed,
A desolate little cluster, the last of the Light Brigade.
They strove to stand to attention, to straighten the toil-bowed back;
They drilled on an empty stomach, the loose-knit files fell slack;
With stooping of weary shoulders, in garments tattered and frayed,
They shambled into his presence, the last of the Light Brigade.
The old Troop-Sergeant was spokesman, and "Beggin' your pardon," he said,
"You wrote o' the Light Brigade, sir. Here's all that isn't dead.
An' it's all come true what you wrote, sir, regardin' the mouth of hell;
For we're all of us nigh to the workhouse, an' we thought we'd call an' tell.
"No, thank you, we don't want food, sir; but couldn't you take an' write
A sort of 'to be continued' and 'see next page' o' the fight?
We think that someone has blundered, an' couldn't you tell 'em how?
You wrote we were heroes once, sir. Please, write we are starving now."
The poor little army departed, limping and lean and forlorn.
And the heart of the Master-singer grew hot with "the scorn of scorn."
And he wrote for them wonderful verses that swept the land like flame,
Till the fatted souls of the English were scourged with the thing called Shame.
They sent a cheque to the felon that sprang from an Irish bog;
They healed the spavined cab-horse; they housed the homeless dog;
And they sent (you may call me a liar), when felon and beast were paid,
A cheque, for enough to live on, to the last of the Light Brigade.
O thirty million English that babble of England's might,
Behold there are twenty heroes who lack their food to-night;
Our children's children are lisping to "honour the charge they made - "
And we leave to the streets and the workhouse the charge of the Light Brigade!
(The penultimate verse, which we have italicised,
was included in the first publication in the St James' Gazette,
but was omitted from the collected versions.)
The Last of the Light Brigade
There were thirty million English who talked of England's might,
There were twenty broken troopers who lacked a bed for the night.
They had neither food nor money, they had neither service nor trade;
They were only shiftless soldiers, the last of the Light Brigade.
They felt that life was fleeting; they knew not that art was long,
That though they were dying of famine, they lived in deathless song.
They asked for a little money to keep the wolf from the door;
And the thirty million English sent twenty pounds and four !
They laid their heads together that were scarred and lined and grey;
Keen were the Russian sabres, but want was keener than they;
And an old Troop-Sergeant muttered, "Let us go to the man who writes
The things on Balaclava the kiddies at school recites."
They went without bands or colours, a regiment ten-file strong,
To look for the Master-singer who had crowned them all in his song;
And, waiting his servant's order, by the garden gate they stayed,
A desolate little cluster, the last of the Light Brigade.
They strove to stand to attention, to straighten the toil-bowed back;
They drilled on an empty stomach, the loose-knit files fell slack;
With stooping of weary shoulders, in garments tattered and frayed,
They shambled into his presence, the last of the Light Brigade.
The old Troop-Sergeant was spokesman, and "Beggin' your pardon," he said,
"You wrote o' the Light Brigade, sir. Here's all that isn't dead.
An' it's all come true what you wrote, sir, regardin' the mouth of hell;
For we're all of us nigh to the workhouse, an' we thought we'd call an' tell.
"No, thank you, we don't want food, sir; but couldn't you take an' write
A sort of 'to be continued' and 'see next page' o' the fight?
We think that someone has blundered, an' couldn't you tell 'em how?
You wrote we were heroes once, sir. Please, write we are starving now."
The poor little army departed, limping and lean and forlorn.
And the heart of the Master-singer grew hot with "the scorn of scorn."
And he wrote for them wonderful verses that swept the land like flame,
Till the fatted souls of the English were scourged with the thing called Shame.
They sent a cheque to the felon that sprang from an Irish bog;
They healed the spavined cab-horse; they housed the homeless dog;
And they sent (you may call me a liar), when felon and beast were paid,
A cheque, for enough to live on, to the last of the Light Brigade.
O thirty million English that babble of England's might,
Behold there are twenty heroes who lack their food to-night;
Our children's children are lisping to "honour the charge they made - "
And we leave to the streets and the workhouse the charge of the Light Brigade!
(The penultimate verse, which we have italicised,
was included in the first publication in the St James' Gazette,
but was omitted from the collected versions.)
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Makes my blood when some clerk tells a vet to buss off. Their job is to find ways to get you the help you need
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The other you may have to do (which I ended up having to do) was hire a lawyer who specializes in maneuvering around VA. The VA has its own rules including the board of appeals. Regular lawyers don’t know how to maneuver like ones that specialize in VA.
The other thing is if yours goes all the way to a judge, the judge will have a team in the background doing research on the VA rules and regulations which makes the outcome better then just the board of appeals. However, this is an extremely long and tedious process and the VA tends to use verbiage that most people don’t understand and it tends to make the person appealing frustrated…
If you find a firm that claims they fight VA benefits, you will want to do your due diligence and research that law firm to make sure they’re legit.
If you’d like the one I used, send me a message and I can provide.
Hope this helps!
The other thing is if yours goes all the way to a judge, the judge will have a team in the background doing research on the VA rules and regulations which makes the outcome better then just the board of appeals. However, this is an extremely long and tedious process and the VA tends to use verbiage that most people don’t understand and it tends to make the person appealing frustrated…
If you find a firm that claims they fight VA benefits, you will want to do your due diligence and research that law firm to make sure they’re legit.
If you’d like the one I used, send me a message and I can provide.
Hope this helps!
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Is it service connected, and can you prove it? While you may be 100%, your rating has nothing to do with your back injury. If it's not service connected, you need to file a new claim for it, and be able to prove it.
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Do like I do, get your own private medical insurance, even under a family member.
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The VHA is full of clowns. I'm 100% sched. Rated, total and permanent. Feb 23 I tore the sagittal band, collateral ligaments, volar plate on my dominant hand index finger. 5 appointments and 8 months later I threw a fit and created a scene. I was finally referred and had hand surgery last week. ONEof many many many many many many many many times the VHA treated me with indifference and distain. CLOWNS I SAY.
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Ssgt Markland,
My suggestion is contact your sitting US Senator's office. They have a Veteran Constituent Aid. I use to work for a sitting US Senator and issues like your we handle with any federal agency.
My suggestion is contact your sitting US Senator's office. They have a Veteran Constituent Aid. I use to work for a sitting US Senator and issues like your we handle with any federal agency.
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