Posted on Jun 23, 2024
Can you be forced to pay for an “inspectable item” out of your own pocket?
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So it was brought to my attention that my command team will be inspecting us for an item that I was never issued. When asked what I should do about the situation, my platoon leadership told me to “figure it out” and to “go buy what I’m missing”.
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Instead of taking the 5 seconds that's needed to say "We got you," instead they just took 5 seconds to serve up a side dish of worthless leadership.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
I concur totally. This platoon chain of command needs a lesson that uses those two items as a reference.
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The Army Values Card (AVC) and the Army Values Warrior Ethos (AVWE) dog tag are not individual supply items. They are Graphic Training Aids (GTA) that were produced by the Army and distributed through leadership channels to individual Soldiers.
Like all GTAs, they are available to order through the training support centers by your supply folks.
Personally, I'd be amazed if someone in the unit leadership didn't have dozens of them shoved in the back of a desk drawer somewhere (at least the ACV).
If for some strange reason your leadership can't help you, check with your company supply and orderly room, after that I'd hit up the S-3 (they could have filled a crate with the ones they had all over the place).
If you go to the Solder Support Center on base you can usually find them in the In/Out processing and Soldier Readiness areas (and many other locations as well).
Worst case - go to the Training Support Center on base (for Fort Campbell, that should be just up the road from the DSSB off of Screaming Eagle Boulevard) where they are warehoused and see if they will give you one without having to go through the paperwork drill of your unit ordering them.
Specifically, the item numbers are:
● GTA 22-06-004 for the AVC
● GTA 22-06-005 for the AVWE dog tag
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https://atiam.train.army.mil/catalog/view/100.ATSC/40C97494-572F-4D6E-8C5D-3A0EA427FB9B [login to see] 870/22-06-004/2206004_top.htm
https://atiam.train.army.mil/catalog/view/100.ATSC/E7D48179-A9C7-42B8-97C3-1FBB58B112CE [login to see] 398/22-06-005/2206005_top.htm
Like all GTAs, they are available to order through the training support centers by your supply folks.
Personally, I'd be amazed if someone in the unit leadership didn't have dozens of them shoved in the back of a desk drawer somewhere (at least the ACV).
If for some strange reason your leadership can't help you, check with your company supply and orderly room, after that I'd hit up the S-3 (they could have filled a crate with the ones they had all over the place).
If you go to the Solder Support Center on base you can usually find them in the In/Out processing and Soldier Readiness areas (and many other locations as well).
Worst case - go to the Training Support Center on base (for Fort Campbell, that should be just up the road from the DSSB off of Screaming Eagle Boulevard) where they are warehoused and see if they will give you one without having to go through the paperwork drill of your unit ordering them.
Specifically, the item numbers are:
● GTA 22-06-004 for the AVC
● GTA 22-06-005 for the AVWE dog tag
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https://atiam.train.army.mil/catalog/view/100.ATSC/40C97494-572F-4D6E-8C5D-3A0EA427FB9B [login to see] 870/22-06-004/2206004_top.htm
https://atiam.train.army.mil/catalog/view/100.ATSC/E7D48179-A9C7-42B8-97C3-1FBB58B112CE [login to see] 398/22-06-005/2206005_top.htm
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SSG Laurie Mullen
It's one of those things that you don't generally sign for, but you MUST have. When I first got to the 122nd Sig BN in the 2nd Infantry Division we were issued 2nd ID wallets with a string to go around our necks. We were told to carry/wear it at all times and that it was an inspectable item.
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SGT (Join to see)
SSG Laurie Mullen - A m just have? Well then it should have been issued to the soldier. Oh and BTW dog tags or any form of jewelry is dangerous to the individual if they maintain anything with moving parts or are electrical.
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SSG Laurie Mullen
SGT (Join to see) - The dog tag chains are designed to break. If I had to work on equipment with moving parts or on a power bay I removed my watch. I very rarely wore the wallet around my neck.
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