Posted on Jul 21, 2015
Christmas is undeniably Christian. Do recent judicial rulings and the absence of other religious holidays give it little hope of surviving?
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Put aside your high humidity and high electric bills and think December 25th. Christmas. It's on every calendar in America. It's been a federal holiday since 1870. But Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur are on the calendar, and they are not federal holidays. Ramadan is on the calendar, and it is not a federal holiday. Kwanza, though an ethnic event, is on the calendar, but it is not a federal holiday. I pose this question because Christmas was once thought to cover everyone and anyone in America, at least people wanted to believe it did. And, yet, increasing anti-religious preferences AND a palpable anti-Christian sentiment in many foreign countries, including our own, makes me ask if Christmas is in danger of being ON the calendar like all the other religious celebrations, BUT no longer a federal holiday? Congress has not "celebrated" Christmas for years. Neither have schools and state and local governments. It's Winter Holiday or some equally generic cold and meaningless term. What do you think is really possible, given the über politically correct state of American Society? And what would that say about America when scores of other nations, with equally diverse religious cultures, continue to celebrate Christmas as they have for centuries??? It seems to me that in many ways and in many institutions, secular and non-secular, longstanding traditions are disappearing more and more, and nothing is replacing them.
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Federal laqw for civilians give employees the opportunity to change their holidays if they are of different faith. In the private world, no business wants you to take a day off anyway. LOL
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SCPO (Join to see)
That's exactly the kind of lackadaisical attitude about Christmas to which I am referring. Thank you.
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I've come to the opinion that when a person gets a job or applies for a school or whatnot, they should get 5 "free" holidays for religious or philosophical observance that they can populate their year with. Use them whenever, on top of (and apart from) any regular vacation you may have. A lot of us have no interest in Christmas and I, for one, would work through it in exchange for other holidays that are more meaningful to me, but I have to take personal leave to observe them.
So, get hired, pick your holidays, and everyone drives on.
So, get hired, pick your holidays, and everyone drives on.
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So I read this post a few times. When I first read it, I thought SCPO (Join to see) was going to make a point that Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, Ramadan, and Kwanza should all be Federal Holidays. Obviously, after reading the post, I know that is not the point of this thread. But yet I'm still a little confused as what the overall point is. Will Christmas ever come off the calendar? No, I don't think it will. Does it deserve to be a federal holiday? Possibility, after all the country was founded with it's roots in Christianity not in these other religions. Is it politically correct to have those other holidays on the calendar but not have them as Federal holidays? I would say yes, with the majority of population of the USA still being practicing some sort of Christian-based religion, I would say having one all inclusive day isn't a bad thing. Where you lose me is when you mention schools not observing it. Without completing an in depth fact finding process, I believe that most if not all of the schools in the Pittsburgh, PA area at least have some sort of "Winter Break"; allowing families to spend time together during the Holiday season.
I myself do not get to hung up on the date of Dec 25th. Afterall, it was some date that Roman Emperor Constantine picked pretty much out of thin air to observe what Christians recognize as one of the most important days of their calendar (someone else can debate that topic on another forum site). For me, the Holiday season surrounding the week of Dec 25th, is about spending time with my family, thankful that I have been able to share yet another year with my friends and family. And let's face it, thanks to modern retail stores, the Christmas Season really starts in late September/early October anyways. :)
I myself do not get to hung up on the date of Dec 25th. Afterall, it was some date that Roman Emperor Constantine picked pretty much out of thin air to observe what Christians recognize as one of the most important days of their calendar (someone else can debate that topic on another forum site). For me, the Holiday season surrounding the week of Dec 25th, is about spending time with my family, thankful that I have been able to share yet another year with my friends and family. And let's face it, thanks to modern retail stores, the Christmas Season really starts in late September/early October anyways. :)
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SGT Ben Keen
SCPO (Join to see) - My point is that I don't see a change in how we observe/celebrate/honor/remember the date of Dec 25th. It's part of who we are, we identify ourselves with that date but the date itself isn't' really important. Plus, off topic, I hate walking into the mall in October only to hear Jingle Bells already playing.
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