Posted on Feb 9, 2023
Sgt Minh Tan
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Marine vet,was attached to 82nd Airbourne unit during my 2017 deployment to Afghanistan and me and my company recieved CIBs,don't know why we didn't get CARs.
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SSgt Christophe Murphy
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The whole “convert the CIB” conversation is getting you off the course you need to be on. The CIB certificate seems to be a novelty notion from the unit. If you and your Unit rated the Combat Action Ribbon then there should be documentation about this and the first course of action needs to be contacting your Marine unit and the adjutant. They are the ones who need to fix this.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
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Hate to tell you, but this is just a pretty piece of paper which can be hung on your wall. Even if you were Army, it doesn't give you the legal rights to wear the award - there is no orders number. I am hoping you received real orders with this? If not you are SOL. With out orders, NFG
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
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MAJ Ronnie Reams - Also, the LTC does not have his component listed in signature block, the SGM is RA. No USA, USAR nor NGUS in CO's block.
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Sgt Minh Tan
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I do have the order page that lists all the marines that received the award.
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
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MAJ Ronnie Reams - Well, also for LTGs and GENs since Major General i the highest USA rank.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
SGM Mikel Dawson
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Sgt Minh Tan - Great, you got orders, then contact your Marine records department, they should be able to help.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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The CIB is the Infantry’s version of a CAB. If you are not Infantry. I do not believe you can wear the CIB, someone will correct. Instead your Marine unit if you were deployed with them should have submitted the appropriate type of Combat award through the Army COC and then to be validated by the appropriate level within the Marines. You should still be able to have either or corrected even now.
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SGM Mikel Dawson
SGM Mikel Dawson
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And even not all infantrymen can get it. I was there 03-04, 11Z yet because I was not assigned to an Infantry unit, BDE, Regimental or below, I could not be awarded.
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SSG Infantryman
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The CIB is the Combat Infantryman's Badge, not a "version" of the CAB. The CIB and CAB are two different awards with entirely different criteria. The individual seeking guidance should have been directed to the Marine Corps or Navy administrative departments to get the correct guidance on what they need to do. What we all say here don't matter one bit because they are the ones that will make the official decision on whether or not he rates the award.
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CSM Darieus ZaGara
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SSG (Join to see) I am well aware of the criteria for both, version: A particular form of something differing in certain respects from an earlier form or other forms of the same type of thing.

The CIB came first. The CAB came about as a way to award those who are not infantry by recognizing their direct contact with the enemy during a combat operation.

My comment was just that. Everyone has an opinion as tobthe validity, rather the necessity for either. I was tryingvto keep my respknse distinct not placing my own bias. Thank you for your comments.
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