Posted on Nov 4, 2014
Concealed carry for all current service members (CAC holders)?
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I agree with letting soldiers carry on post and off post but using the cac idea as a chl is not going to work if you pull out your cac card in a rural area or in an area away from a military base local law enforcement is not going to know that the cac card is used as a chl in that state if you don't have your chl you are going to jail I don't care whether you are a 4 star or a private
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Nope, Ive seen too many AD soldiers not know how to handle, load or keep safe a rifle they supposedly trained on for 9 months. Why would you want them carrying a brand new weapon system they've never trained on?
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I look at some of the people I've served with over the years, and shudder to think of them with concealed weapons. A guy by the name of Ken Steinhoff comes to mind. I believe he might shoot himself and other people accidentally.
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Negative - the is good reason for command to control weapons on post...I have seen to many regardless of age and experience lose control...I've see it due to drugs, alcohol, lack of self control, anger issues, mental issues etc...guaranteed you will have increased crime on and off base..,incidental shootings...the year I got to Korea the Korean military stopped officers from carrying weapons...why...to many were shooting enlisted they felt were disrespecting them...this was occurring on and off base...I like it just the way it is...
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Not until all personnel with waivers for felonies are kicked out, and there are no waivers for that at all.
At that point, then yes. It should be considered a duty item.
At that point, then yes. It should be considered a duty item.
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Many of you are looking at the whole mag capacity thing wrong. Do it like 3 Gun Nation does and have it fit a given dimension. For a XDm9 that would be 19, a M&P9 17, Sig226 40 15 and so on and require standard law enforcement calibers with maybe the exception of .380, anything less is dangerous and anything more overkill. Holsters are another matter. No one wants to get shot with their own gun. I know what I carry is not ideal for a new private so I'm gonna leave that one alone. I understand the idea of Officers and NCO's carrying but to not let jr. soldiers carry sends the message that they don't matter. Difficult questions to be sorted out be persons higher than me.
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Lest we forget Officer Tackleberry, "When do we get the guns?" Carte Blanche to everyone in the military? Guns get lost, stolen, AD'd, found by kids, used to lawfully and unlawfully threaten, scare people when seen sticking out of the shirt at banks, movies...Oh, us cops do all the aforementioned things with our guns too. We are supposed to know better. PVT Snuffy gonna contain his Desert Eagle?
Recruitment might benefit: Join the Army and get a CCW.
Another Tackleberry moment, "Time to deploy for school!" Good stuff
Recruitment might benefit: Join the Army and get a CCW.
Another Tackleberry moment, "Time to deploy for school!" Good stuff
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Not everyone. Some people are dangerous shooting on STATIC ranges (I worked at a Navy small arms range in South Mississippi for just over 3 years, and saw over 6,000 personnel roll through in that time), never mind a dynamic and fluid environment with bystanders. There would definitely need to be some type of dynamic-shooting criteria that would have to be met, plus 'shoot / no-shoot' training (JET). Allowing personnel to carry just because they have a CAC? Not so much.
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