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There is no real recipe that C-4 enhances. The reasons we cooked with C-4 were many. One reason was because you could. Hot food was always preferred to cold food. C rations were always cold…and when it was raining, you got drenched. Not all rains in Viet Nam were warm rains…very few were. When you stopped for the day, in that period between late afternoon and sundown, you had a few minutes to prepare for the night. That usually meant cleaning your rifle and other weapons, picking a spot where you could defend yourself, if you could, finding a dry place to sleep, and after all this was done, you sometimes had a few minutes to eat.
Out in the bush we had C-rations and, if you could get them, LRRP rations. We usually had to steal….uh, did I say steal…I meant liberate the LRRP rations. They were a freeze dried meal in a package,….and if you could get some hot water into them, they tasted a whole lot better than anything cold.
Having hot water was the trick. You usually only had a few minutes before it got dark enough that any kind of a fire would cast too much light. You could be targeted by someone outside the LZ or the area where you were. Often, it was so wet, it was hard to find anything dry enough to burn. You didn’t want a smoky fire either; the smell could carry a long way. . so, we used C-4.
You had to be careful. C-4 came in a one pound bar, wrapped in a green waxy paper. It was white in color, and had a texture of stale taffy mixed with very fine sand. We would pinch off a piece about the size of the end of your little finger, or smaller. You then had to roll it for a while to make sure it didn’t have any air pockets in it. If you lit it and it had an air pocket, it would explode. Not a bad explosion, but it would blow your canteen of hot water all over you. You didn’t step on it either to put the fire out…you let it burn out. It wanted to explode when you stepped on it….some tried and some instantly needed at least one new shoe.
You took a few rocks and made a little hole in the middle of them, put the C-4 down in the hole, lit it, and immediately put your canteen cup full of water on top of the rocks. You had to do this outside and make sure you were not downwind of the fire. The gas the burning C-4 made was extremely toxic. FNG’s would see us cooking with C-4 and even though they were warned to never use it in an enclosed space, often did, and were medivaced out. The gas was really bad.
Often you’d have to use a second chunk, but soon, you had boiling water. You have no idea what a luxury hot water is until you don’t have any. You’d use about half your canteen for the LRRP ration, the other half remaining in your canteen, you could put in a tea bag or some instant coffee….and lots of sugar. For a few moments, way out in the jungle, forgetting what the day had brought, and not thinking of what the night could bring, for a few moments, you could have a hot meal and a cup of hot coffee and count the days before you could leave the mess you were in and return home.
Out in the bush we had C-rations and, if you could get them, LRRP rations. We usually had to steal….uh, did I say steal…I meant liberate the LRRP rations. They were a freeze dried meal in a package,….and if you could get some hot water into them, they tasted a whole lot better than anything cold.
Having hot water was the trick. You usually only had a few minutes before it got dark enough that any kind of a fire would cast too much light. You could be targeted by someone outside the LZ or the area where you were. Often, it was so wet, it was hard to find anything dry enough to burn. You didn’t want a smoky fire either; the smell could carry a long way. . so, we used C-4.
You had to be careful. C-4 came in a one pound bar, wrapped in a green waxy paper. It was white in color, and had a texture of stale taffy mixed with very fine sand. We would pinch off a piece about the size of the end of your little finger, or smaller. You then had to roll it for a while to make sure it didn’t have any air pockets in it. If you lit it and it had an air pocket, it would explode. Not a bad explosion, but it would blow your canteen of hot water all over you. You didn’t step on it either to put the fire out…you let it burn out. It wanted to explode when you stepped on it….some tried and some instantly needed at least one new shoe.
You took a few rocks and made a little hole in the middle of them, put the C-4 down in the hole, lit it, and immediately put your canteen cup full of water on top of the rocks. You had to do this outside and make sure you were not downwind of the fire. The gas the burning C-4 made was extremely toxic. FNG’s would see us cooking with C-4 and even though they were warned to never use it in an enclosed space, often did, and were medivaced out. The gas was really bad.
Often you’d have to use a second chunk, but soon, you had boiling water. You have no idea what a luxury hot water is until you don’t have any. You’d use about half your canteen for the LRRP ration, the other half remaining in your canteen, you could put in a tea bag or some instant coffee….and lots of sugar. For a few moments, way out in the jungle, forgetting what the day had brought, and not thinking of what the night could bring, for a few moments, you could have a hot meal and a cup of hot coffee and count the days before you could leave the mess you were in and return home.
Edited 6 y ago
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Responses: 41
Sgt David G Duchesneau
Ya Terry, that the Low Lads of Dong Ha Valley! We were on our way to Cam LO and then Con Thien.
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SSgt Terry P.
Sgt David G Duchesneau - Just noticed that can of "real world food" beside you.Must have been a special day. LOL
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Sgt David G Duchesneau
Thank God for care packages from home. Those C Rats did me a number. Talk about acid reflex!!!!!
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Used C-4, but never cooked with it! I fondly remember times we would come across a tank company. Using their exhaust to cook our food. Now that is a good time!
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
My Uncle Who is retired Army SFC mention that cooking in a tank exhaust which was good unless someone stepped on the gas and the C rat can came flying out like and artillery shell.
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SMSgt Lawrence McCarter
Another way We often used to heat up CRats was place a can on top of the manifold in a jeep, put the hood down which would keep the can in place, later open it, remove the can and vola Hot chow !
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Not very often SSgt Terry P.. My enlisted time was spent is a combat engineer with many Vietnam War draftees serving out their obligation. They seemed to take more chances than I did and some were probably psychotic.
I remember star clusters being fired at ground level towards probing aggressors during filed problems when we we use C-4 and a number of other munitions.
Small amounts of C-4 worked okay for cooking as long as nobody tried to cover up the flame which led to explosive results:-)
I remember star clusters being fired at ground level towards probing aggressors during filed problems when we we use C-4 and a number of other munitions.
Small amounts of C-4 worked okay for cooking as long as nobody tried to cover up the flame which led to explosive results:-)
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CSM (Join to see)
I made one of these, out of a C rat can, in Boy Scouts...still have it after 35+ years...
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LTC Stephen F.
CSM (Join to see) that is pretty "cool"
I still have at least one P-38 can opener/screw driver, etc which reminds me of C Rations - pound cake, fruit cocktail, nut roll, spaghetti and meatballs which I could never cook all the way through, etc.
Unfortunately P-38's are considered a weapon now and I had a sheriff's deputy confiscated a P-38 next to my dog tags last year. They are one of the items not authorized to bring into our local courthouse.
I still have at least one P-38 can opener/screw driver, etc which reminds me of C Rations - pound cake, fruit cocktail, nut roll, spaghetti and meatballs which I could never cook all the way through, etc.
Unfortunately P-38's are considered a weapon now and I had a sheriff's deputy confiscated a P-38 next to my dog tags last year. They are one of the items not authorized to bring into our local courthouse.
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This is great. I knew that C-4 was relatively safe when no detonator was in play. I even knew that soldiers have used it to heat water as SSgt Terry P. lays out in the story. I did not know that it would explode if it had air pockets in it, and I didn't know that the fumes were toxic (though I should have being that it is an explosive). Thanks for sharing.
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I’ve been a trucker for 32 years. I can relate. I never made “turbo turkey” but I have found some pretty ingenious ways of heating food and water.
You’re 100% right about not having hot food or water.
I thought many times about creating an oven by circulating coolant through an “oven” jacket.
These days I have a microwave.
Life’s good.
You’re 100% right about not having hot food or water.
I thought many times about creating an oven by circulating coolant through an “oven” jacket.
These days I have a microwave.
Life’s good.
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Used to cook with it and make a quick fighting holes, beats the hell out of digging.
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SSgt Terry P.
GySgt Bill Smith Never made a fighting hole with it. Did use shape charges to make holes for piss tubes in base camps.
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When I went in Army in 83 there were plenty Vietnam vets. Almost all of the NCOs were Vietnam vets. They would tell us you learned the Army way how to be an infantryman now we are are going to show you how it's really done. The article about cooking with C4 is straight out of my memory exact to the T. Yes those guys taught us cooking with C4. Man the memories this article dredged up for me.....
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SSgt Terry P.
SMSgt Keith Stephens One of the few regrets of leaving the military for many years before returning was the opportunity to mentor young SM's in the actual "necessities" of surviving horrible conditions and combat.
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I really remember the C4 bit .. everyone carried a pound to blow and a 1/4 pound to cook with.
Question?
Did anyone actually try to stomp the C4 fire out?
Question?
Did anyone actually try to stomp the C4 fire out?
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SSgt Terry P.
SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. I heard tales of a Marine getting his foot blown off by stomping burning C-4, but never witnessed it.According to everything i know about the stuff it will not detonate when stomped even while burning.Not that i would like to try.
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
SSgt Terry P. hummmm .. why do so many of these sort of stories begins with "Well .. there was this Marine" :)
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SSgt Terry P.
SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. - LOL.same story from a thousand mouths --and they were right there.
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I can happily say no to this one. It is an experience that I can say I never had. I’m fortunate to not find myself in the situation that made this a necessity! Great share though.
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