Posted on Nov 7, 2014
Disrespected while correcting a Soldier, how would you handle this situation?
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Ok so there I was at a court-martial asking a Soldier why he was wearing ACUs and not ASUs. He started to catch an attitude, so I told him to go to parade rest. He turned away from me looking at my paralegal, putting his hands in his pockets.
My paralegal tells him that he does not need to be looking at him, but at me, because I was the one addressing him, and that he needs to show respect. As the Soldier continues to stare out at my paralegal with his hands in his pockets, I continue to correct him when a civilian comes out to where I was correcting the Soldier stating that she had work to do and I could "yell" at him some other time.
I was so mind boggled and dumbfounded because said civilian used to be in the military. I'm sorry, but the last time I checked the Soldier was given a direct order by a CPT and myself that the duty uniform for the court-martial was ASUs and an alternate uniform had to be approved by the judge, so I was doing my job by asking him why he was in the wrong uniform and then correcting him when he began to disrespect me.
I felt so disrespected I just walked away and sat in a room to cool off.
How would you have handled the situation?
My paralegal tells him that he does not need to be looking at him, but at me, because I was the one addressing him, and that he needs to show respect. As the Soldier continues to stare out at my paralegal with his hands in his pockets, I continue to correct him when a civilian comes out to where I was correcting the Soldier stating that she had work to do and I could "yell" at him some other time.
I was so mind boggled and dumbfounded because said civilian used to be in the military. I'm sorry, but the last time I checked the Soldier was given a direct order by a CPT and myself that the duty uniform for the court-martial was ASUs and an alternate uniform had to be approved by the judge, so I was doing my job by asking him why he was in the wrong uniform and then correcting him when he began to disrespect me.
I felt so disrespected I just walked away and sat in a room to cool off.
How would you have handled the situation?
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Edited 11 y ago
Posted 11 y ago
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Captain, do you think the Soldier was at the court-martial because he was good a following orders?
I suggest you leave that situation to the Sr Non-com and get back to being an officer.
I suggest you leave that situation to the Sr Non-com and get back to being an officer.
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Done! Charge sheet thrown at the Sgt and a free car ride to the BN CO's office. Goodbye E-5, hello E-4!
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I'd start out with a counseling statement and I would figure out some really shitty extra duty, every time the soldier has a problem with my authority I'd right another counseling statement. All it takes is 3 counseling statements to put a soldier up for a article 15. I had a problem with one soldier during OIF, I was a white Sgt. and he was black and told me because I was a white Sgt he wouldn't do anything. He continued to be a problem, but I was persistent and he lost his rank. Am glad I am out of the Army because it used to be being an NCO was easy but now the bears aren't afraid of the park rangers anymore, the Army has gotten to racial.
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Where was his chain of command. Doesn't he suppose to have a NCO escort if he is confined?
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Tell the civilian, if she interrupt me again, it will be the last thing she does here.
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Where in the hell was a court martial proceedings taking place with civilians trying to work? Venue should have been appropriate first of all and then the proper reaction could've taken place! Hooaaah!
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Classic example of why I retired 31 years ago. The NCO authority was being slowly but surely stripped away. This authority was being destroyed by senior NCO's fraternizing with junior and mid grade officers and lower grade enlisted. It seemed to be reaching the point where many were on first name basis publicly and while in uniform. I had many officers and CMSGT's that I was also friends with but I always kept that arm's length separation of knowing when and where. Inthis case I would have put the person in a brace and explained the facts of military life to him. I would have taken the civilian's information and up channeled the incident of interfering in my military duties and had the CO or civilian personnel handle it. Remember sometimes the most powerful weapon you have is the pen. Just make sure you have the facts right.
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