Posted on Nov 7, 2014
Disrespected while correcting a Soldier, how would you handle this situation?
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Ok so there I was at a court-martial asking a Soldier why he was wearing ACUs and not ASUs. He started to catch an attitude, so I told him to go to parade rest. He turned away from me looking at my paralegal, putting his hands in his pockets.
My paralegal tells him that he does not need to be looking at him, but at me, because I was the one addressing him, and that he needs to show respect. As the Soldier continues to stare out at my paralegal with his hands in his pockets, I continue to correct him when a civilian comes out to where I was correcting the Soldier stating that she had work to do and I could "yell" at him some other time.
I was so mind boggled and dumbfounded because said civilian used to be in the military. I'm sorry, but the last time I checked the Soldier was given a direct order by a CPT and myself that the duty uniform for the court-martial was ASUs and an alternate uniform had to be approved by the judge, so I was doing my job by asking him why he was in the wrong uniform and then correcting him when he began to disrespect me.
I felt so disrespected I just walked away and sat in a room to cool off.
How would you have handled the situation?
My paralegal tells him that he does not need to be looking at him, but at me, because I was the one addressing him, and that he needs to show respect. As the Soldier continues to stare out at my paralegal with his hands in his pockets, I continue to correct him when a civilian comes out to where I was correcting the Soldier stating that she had work to do and I could "yell" at him some other time.
I was so mind boggled and dumbfounded because said civilian used to be in the military. I'm sorry, but the last time I checked the Soldier was given a direct order by a CPT and myself that the duty uniform for the court-martial was ASUs and an alternate uniform had to be approved by the judge, so I was doing my job by asking him why he was in the wrong uniform and then correcting him when he began to disrespect me.
I felt so disrespected I just walked away and sat in a room to cool off.
How would you have handled the situation?
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As infuriating as the situation was, I think I would have done something like this:
Me: "Soldier, you have exactly three seconds to comply the orders you have been given before I add disrespecting a commissioned officer, disrespecting an NCO, disobeying a direct order and disobeying a lawful order to your charge sheet. Just so you know, that means real time at Leavenworth.
"Three, two, one...."
Me: "Soldier, you have exactly three seconds to comply the orders you have been given before I add disrespecting a commissioned officer, disrespecting an NCO, disobeying a direct order and disobeying a lawful order to your charge sheet. Just so you know, that means real time at Leavenworth.
"Three, two, one...."
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You were at a CM, was he the one being CMed? If not he would have charged now.
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Write it up, if he is not dismissed from service or jailed for the current CM, let him be drug before another. Serial offenders don't last long.
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I could say a lot, but I have taken my BDU jacket off and offered the first swing to a disrespectful pos. He was not just a loudmouth, but a coward as well. Other less ignorant soldiers that have gone down that road gave in to the stream of verbal correction and or intimidation (threatening of end of career, loss of pay, jail time.) When I was escorting troops Frankfurt and then out of the Army, I had to carry a .45. One time I did have to lock and load. Our area of the mess hall cleared. He lost his silverware, especially his butter knife, and had to eat with his fingers.
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Was the soldier being court-martialed? If so I would have had MPs put him in a cell, then explain to the court-martial panel exactly what happened. Now that you're a witness the soldier might have to find new representation.
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Are we dealing with a bunch of prima donnas....give the bastard a tongue lashing
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Just one more, if the post commander couldn't hear you yelling at the SM, while sitting in his office with the door closed, you wheren't yelling at him. You were only speaking to him sternly.
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Also, his lawyer is probably a waste of his money if she did not advise him on proper attire and conduct that could aid him.
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