Do cadets actually outrank non-commissioned officers?

I never had the opportunity to see a cadet deal with an NCO but I did get a chance to see a newly appointed Second Lieutenant deal with a First Sergeant. He was fresh out of the Academy and usually they are pretty tough officers but when the First Sergeant was done with him he had some new insights about his ancestors that would curl anyone's hair. Had another opportunity to see a Battalion Commander of a Maintenance Battalion have to deal with his Warrant Officers. He said if there were Warrants in his next command he would retire early. He told me he had enough of these walking Technical Manuals.

watch out for them when they finally get that Bar. they are the one's that thing they know evry thing.

Yeah, I am gonna say "no". The last time I looked at a rank chart for the USAF, it didn't have "KAYDET" on it. I don't know what those squiggles on their shoulder boards mean and if I am not mistaken, they are outside of the chain of command and have not been commissioned as officers YET. Once they are commissioned, I might give a crap what they think. Roast me if you want to, but we had one helping change an engine on an F-16 at Shaw in 1996 and he ended up covered in JP-8. He never talked trash again and he stayed there until we were finished. He might have thought he outranked every enlisted person on the post but he didn't outrank Lt Col Collins, the CC and one of the finest men I have ever worked for. All of maintenance would have followed Col Collins to the gates of hell without asking him why. God, I miss that man.

Last time I checked cadets have no rank in the military….therefore….they don’t even out rank An E-1

I do not know/remember the regulations. In any event, a Cadet is in training and should not assert rank. I was a government civilian (GS-13) and a West Point cadet tried to bully me ( I was in my mid 30s) that he outrank me. At that time I was an USAR MAJ and a GS-13 (is the protocol equivenant to a MAJ). I ignored him and spoke to his CPT sponsor and it was over. That said if a cadet is not afforded the proper respect he needs to act.

No however if you want your PL CO or BC to rip your ass you better respect them!

With the Coast Guard, you had "Cadet Cruises". That involved going along with the Cutter Eagle out of the Academy in New London. The Eagle is a 4 masted Barque that we got as a spoil of war from Germany. It was used as a Training ship there as well. There was a second one, but don't remember who got that one. Anyway, while cruising, the Cadets would spend time on the Eagle and time on the Cutter that was accompanying them, and they DID stand watches. They essentially had NO rank and I have seen one chewed out by an E2 that had to follow up on the Cadets Screw up.

Had this happen to me in 1985 when I was am HT2 had an Annapolis cadet demand that I and my compadres salute him "because he's an officer", he commenced to "berate" us to this fact when my Assistant Dept. Head, A mustang LCDR, came up and asked what was "the problem"? as the cadet "explained" his "problem" said LCDR asked if the cadet saluted officers at which time the "Plebe" snapped to and rendered a salute.........DCC(SW) Ret

I retract my statement.

The question is: have they been placed in the Chain of Command on orders?