Posted on Oct 24, 2017
Do cadets actually outrank non-commissioned officers?
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Had a conversation with a 2lt about this sort of thing; it did not go well for the 2lt.
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Sad but true. While serving on a boomer, we took a dozen or so 2nd & 3rd year Middies on a cruise. About half were very concerned about their status and flaunted it until the CO had a "discussion " with them regarding the crew members with dolphins will be senior to them under all circumstances.
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MSgt John Ingersoll
Not in the US Air Force, Sorry! I was stationed at the US Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs for 3 years as an E-7.
Not technically or any other way does a non-military, civilian, cadet outrank anyone other than other cadets. No then, in June when the cadets have sworn to the "oath" and received "Class is Dismissed" are they officially in the military and have the rank of 2d Lt.
Not technically or any other way does a non-military, civilian, cadet outrank anyone other than other cadets. No then, in June when the cadets have sworn to the "oath" and received "Class is Dismissed" are they officially in the military and have the rank of 2d Lt.
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No Cadets, Midshipmen, NROTC do not outrank anybody they don't get saluted either. It's in the REGS
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To my knowledge it is not until after a cadet receives thier commissioned post do they gain any rank. Therefore, the NCO does outrank a cadet...
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No they do not. They are essentially trainees in a training environment. They are not in any way part of the chain of command outside their training environment. If an NCO walks into their midst, cadets are subordinate to them at ALL times. Until they have completed their training they are just cadets, not full fledged members of the Military. So essentially cadets have no authority over active duty, national guard, or reserve component personnel. Nor should they.
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No-they do not. 'Cadet' is not a rank nor a grade. It is a title. Simple dictionary definition might be helpful: a student at a military or naval academy. Note the word "student". Rank is associated with grade. So any cadet telling me they outrank me, I would ask "What grade is that?" I'd bet they'd stutter, stammer, shuffle their feet and the like. Me... I'm the gal who would ask "Who told you that?" Point of order here - cadets in ROTC sign a legal contract DD4 series Enlisting in their branch of service (the Army does it that way so I'd bet lunch the other services do).
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I'm not generally prone to being unkinged to a pathetic little worm who thinks a few military courses have made him General Patton. I may thank the cadet for his great wisdom---Then tell him to get fucked and get away from me.
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I was in the ROTC program prior to serving in the military. They have it completely backwards if they think a Cadet outrank any rank in the service. According to my ROTC NCOIC Srg Maj Israel, a E1 in the service out ranks every Cadet in the program regardless of there Cadet rank.
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Our policy is until they have their commission their rank is no higher than the cadet major at bunker hill military academy in the movie “TAPS.”
You absolutely don’t salute them, you don’t call them sir or ma’am. Some services recognize them but our service does not. They are civilians at this point, regardless of opinion. I have worked with cadets and most have the knowledge of a SN or E3 in our service and you respect them for that level rank. That’s just how it works for us.
You absolutely don’t salute them, you don’t call them sir or ma’am. Some services recognize them but our service does not. They are civilians at this point, regardless of opinion. I have worked with cadets and most have the knowledge of a SN or E3 in our service and you respect them for that level rank. That’s just how it works for us.
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