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I don't think they segregate women. It's a uniform. It's uniform. I would complain that more often than not they aren't flattering(?) Towards the female physique, in particular the dress uniform skirt or dress. Apparently, in trying to find a happy medium between professional, martial, ceremonial, and retaining some semblance of femininity, someone inserted Victorian era matronhood.
Unfortunately, other than just removing the skirt/dress, I don't have any idea how to fix it.
Unfortunately, other than just removing the skirt/dress, I don't have any idea how to fix it.
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Segregation seems to be the hot topic right now. I think that if you honestly asked servicemembers you would find no one really gives two craps...lol
Perhaps we should all wear gray blobs so that no one is different from anyone else.
Perhaps we should all wear gray blobs so that no one is different from anyone else.
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PO2 Alfredo Pacheco
Well, there is/was talks about making every branch of the US Military have one standard set of uniform.
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It was kind of this way when we all wore BDUs. The only difference was that the Navy & Marines wore different covers.
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Uniform styles do not isolate. They may identify or bring to light genders, but by that logic so does the hairstyle differences.
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I am completely serious.
This article, in my opinion, is complaining for the sake of complaining. If the women who are supposedly feeling isolated, then they should also be complaining about their hairstyles, because the two things do one in the same.
This article, in my opinion, is complaining for the sake of complaining. If the women who are supposedly feeling isolated, then they should also be complaining about their hairstyles, because the two things do one in the same.
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Lol. Maybe we should have a unisex uniform. One haircut for all, so no one fells segregated. And there will be the same number of women and men in any rank.
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Personally I would love to have the traditional male uniforms simply tailored to fit me and my body well, not only is the current women's dress uniform terrible it's also significantly more expensive from the cover to the jacket. And I do think in some ways it does promote segregation, like we're a different part of the unit than the guys. Add in completely different regs for ribbons medals ect. and it's just an unneeded mess!
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Yes, they do. Different uniforms are a contradiction in terms. Either we're all the same or we aren't. Set one standard for uniforms, describe in regulation permissible (minor) alterations for inherent body differences. They need to be as similar as humanly possible.
One uniform, one standard, one set of missions and specialties, one team one fight. Discipline, Unity, Mission Accomplishment.
One uniform, one standard, one set of missions and specialties, one team one fight. Discipline, Unity, Mission Accomplishment.
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While I agree that "different uniforms" is a contradictory statement, sir, the standards are different across the board.
Different standards based on age and gender for physical fitness. Different standards for hairstyles. Different styles of boots can be worn with the uniform. If there is a singular standard, I haven't seen it in my 10 years of service.
The uniform does not "isolate," it merely brings to light that which is already known. 'Hey, that is a male,' or 'hey, that is a female.' It is by not negative by any stretch of the imagination.
Different standards based on age and gender for physical fitness. Different standards for hairstyles. Different styles of boots can be worn with the uniform. If there is a singular standard, I haven't seen it in my 10 years of service.
The uniform does not "isolate," it merely brings to light that which is already known. 'Hey, that is a male,' or 'hey, that is a female.' It is by not negative by any stretch of the imagination.
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Let's go ahead and make restrooms co ed including showers. Everything must be equal; just not the parts we decide on.
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Maybe we should require women with shaved heads or men with longer hair. Maybe we should have our females not wear hearings or maybe we should allow males to do so. I see alter the cut of the uniforms but keep them looking different. I hope I didn't come off as negative because that is not my intention.
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Capt Richard I P.
You might have said those sarcastically but I think they're necessary. A single uniformity standard will eventually occur, including grooming standards, the sooner the better.
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You are not coming across as negative, brother. It is all true. The standard is bent all over the place; not because it of favoritism or anything of the nature, but because men and women are physically different.
If they want the uniform done away with, that is fine and dandy. But, there are so many other things that "highlight the feminine demeanor," such as nails, makeup, hair etc.. So, let's not stop with the 'female uniform.'
If they want the uniform done away with, that is fine and dandy. But, there are so many other things that "highlight the feminine demeanor," such as nails, makeup, hair etc.. So, let's not stop with the 'female uniform.'
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Just imagine a female ASU jacket with the breast pockets. You can imagine how silly the awards would look. I think we have too much time on our hands. What the need to do is give us (Army) the marine designs but keep our different color combinations and the entire force will be happy except the Marines. Laugh out Loud
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While it makes one a bit more aware of the gender differences, especially in dress uniforms, segregating them, No.
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I'm seeing mixed reviews about this. I know when my wife was in, she didn't like some of the female uniforms because they did not fit properly.
As reported in the Navy Times article:
"As part of this, women are now set to wear service dress blue jumpers, the Dixie cup, choker whites and much else instead of the separate styles that women have worn for decades.But some have questioned the top-down push, which has received a mixture of reactions."
As reported in the Navy Times article:
"As part of this, women are now set to wear service dress blue jumpers, the Dixie cup, choker whites and much else instead of the separate styles that women have worn for decades.But some have questioned the top-down push, which has received a mixture of reactions."
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