Posted on Dec 5, 2022
Do I have any options to stand up for myself? Any legitimate grounds to do so?
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I have been in the Army for just over three years. I’ve began to have a number of health issue over the course of those three years. All conditions that have been triple verified by the Army, Civilian docs, and the VA. Suffice to say, call my bluff… I have people with PhDs to back me up. Unfortunately the cards are stacked against me. My new command team has no sympathy for my situation and I’m having my poor mental and physical health used against me. My command team, during the current process of my MEB, is pushing for an administrative separation on the grounds of me having missed five appointments in the span of twelve months.
Keep in mind that I am not a mentally stable individual, nor am I in good health. I have been to the ER several times, and frankly have come close to ending my own life on more than one occasion. I joined the military, but quickly found out that I am not the type of person build to handle it. I acknowledge that, and except it fully… however, I do believe it to be a responsibility on the part of leadership to care, at least a little… for their soldiers.
I am not far from my ratings being given, and frankly, I’m tired of being reminded what a failure I am. I don’t understand the purpose of kicking me while I’m down.
Keep in mind that I am not a mentally stable individual, nor am I in good health. I have been to the ER several times, and frankly have come close to ending my own life on more than one occasion. I joined the military, but quickly found out that I am not the type of person build to handle it. I acknowledge that, and except it fully… however, I do believe it to be a responsibility on the part of leadership to care, at least a little… for their soldiers.
I am not far from my ratings being given, and frankly, I’m tired of being reminded what a failure I am. I don’t understand the purpose of kicking me while I’m down.
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You can't be separated administratively during the MEB process. Whoever told you they were going to separate you either doesn't know what they're doing or enjoys wasting their time.
There's a whole paragraph about it in the separation reg, it's like 1-28 or 31 somewhere around there, don't bother reading it, it will just confuse you more.
The simple explanation is that if a commander wants to pursue an administrative separation, they can process it until it's complete and they have to wait for the MEB process to render its verdict. Then, both packets go to the CG who has the final decision. Unless you're being separated for misconduct/patterns of misconduct, you will receive the MEB separation.
You'll see new commanders do this all the time for MEBs. People get hurt and get fat/fail PT tests/fail to complete DLC/ other things that trigger an automatic separation - and the commander will start the proceedings for separation. Both processes run their course and the Soldier receives a med board separation at the end.
However, if there's misconduct involved, usually DUI, or failed UA, domestic violence, repeated disrespect, then they get the admin separation.
Your command team is clearly too new to know they can't separate you.
There's a whole paragraph about it in the separation reg, it's like 1-28 or 31 somewhere around there, don't bother reading it, it will just confuse you more.
The simple explanation is that if a commander wants to pursue an administrative separation, they can process it until it's complete and they have to wait for the MEB process to render its verdict. Then, both packets go to the CG who has the final decision. Unless you're being separated for misconduct/patterns of misconduct, you will receive the MEB separation.
You'll see new commanders do this all the time for MEBs. People get hurt and get fat/fail PT tests/fail to complete DLC/ other things that trigger an automatic separation - and the commander will start the proceedings for separation. Both processes run their course and the Soldier receives a med board separation at the end.
However, if there's misconduct involved, usually DUI, or failed UA, domestic violence, repeated disrespect, then they get the admin separation.
Your command team is clearly too new to know they can't separate you.
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COL Randall C.
100% agreement with SFC (Join to see).
SPC (Join to see), as part of the Integrated Disability Evaluation System (IDES) process, you should have been assigned a Physical Evaluation Board Liaison Officer (PEBLO)* and referred to a servicing Office of Soldier's Counsel (OSC)*. If you were never formally referred to a servicing OSC, Ft. Huachuca has a WTU, so it's very likely there is an OSC there as well.
Your PEBLO should be your first point of contact if you have questions about anything going on during the IDES process (MEB, PEB, etc) as well as helping with the navigation of the system and process.
First, reach out to your PEBLO and have him connect you to your servicing OSC. If for some reason there isn't one (which shouldn't happen), contact the SJA on post and ask to speak to one.
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* PEBLO - https://militarydisabilitymadeeasy.com/peblo.html
* OSC - https://www.jagcnet.army.mil/sites/osc.nsf/homeDisplay.xsp?open&documentId=8A025BD39A4598DC [login to see] 680D21
* Ft. Huachuca SJA - https://home.army.mil/huachuca/index.php/about/Garrison/staff-judge-advocate
SPC (Join to see), as part of the Integrated Disability Evaluation System (IDES) process, you should have been assigned a Physical Evaluation Board Liaison Officer (PEBLO)* and referred to a servicing Office of Soldier's Counsel (OSC)*. If you were never formally referred to a servicing OSC, Ft. Huachuca has a WTU, so it's very likely there is an OSC there as well.
Your PEBLO should be your first point of contact if you have questions about anything going on during the IDES process (MEB, PEB, etc) as well as helping with the navigation of the system and process.
First, reach out to your PEBLO and have him connect you to your servicing OSC. If for some reason there isn't one (which shouldn't happen), contact the SJA on post and ask to speak to one.
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* PEBLO - https://militarydisabilitymadeeasy.com/peblo.html
* OSC - https://www.jagcnet.army.mil/sites/osc.nsf/homeDisplay.xsp?open&documentId=8A025BD39A4598DC [login to see] 680D21
* Ft. Huachuca SJA - https://home.army.mil/huachuca/index.php/about/Garrison/staff-judge-advocate
PEBLO • Military Disability Made Easy
When a service member develops a medical condition and is referred to theIntegrated Disability Evaluation System, they are appointed a PEBLO (Physical
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SPC (Join to see) I'm sorry to hear of the challenges you shared. We're here to listen, but please reach out to a professional if you need help. Here are some resources that are free: https://www.rallypoint.com/emergency-support
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